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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:47 pm    Post subject: Putting a deposit down - inspection and warranty Reply with quote

Hi all
I think I am about to put a deposit down on a 991.
The car in question is currently at the opc having some work done (but not being sold by them).
Is it worth me getting an 111 point inspection whilst it's there?
Will it tell me much?
Car is sold with 6 month limited warranty which I can upgrade to "value of the car" type warranty for 12 months and will probably do so.
So - spend the money on 111 point check or use it for the extended warranty or just save the ££.
Thoughts?

Any obvious watch outs on the 991? (I am pretty familiar with all the usual 997 stuff)

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The c£220 cost of a 111 point check may throw up far more than that in things that you can negotiate off the price so I would.

There shouldn't be anything extra for them to look for compared to a 997.2
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Terry. That was certainly where I started from, I then had a bit of a google and found quite a few people saying it's not worth the paper it's written on - not very detailed and inconsistent from one opc to the next in terms of how much they pick up.
Does anyone have any experience of how robust or otherwise the 111 point check is?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best warranty you can get is the Official Porsche one and the 111 point check flags up what a car will need done to get on that scheme so it's a no-brainer if that's what any buyer is planning.

If you're not planning to go that route then it won't matter if the battery or tyres aren't Porsche approved but other things may still be relevant.

On older cars a PPI including a borescope would be more prudent but that costs more £££s and isn't necessary on a 991.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Do you know if it will include an over revs report?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are getting a warranty, they will check for over rev's.
If it's a PDK unlikely that it can happen.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a manual and I don't plan to take up a Porsche warranty.
I just want to know if it's a decent car or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the 111-point check on my 991.1 a few years back, and it highlighted the requirement to replace one of the tyres and sort out wheel alignment. Given that would have cost me over £200 alone, and was covered by the dealer - it was a worthwhile investment.

I bet if you asked the OPC, they may tell you about the over-revs. you would need the current owner (the dealer?) to provide them with permission to release the information - but checking over-revs is a 5 min job, so it would be strange for them to decline, or refuse to do it for a nominal fee.

I would recommend an over-rev check on a manual. you only need someone to have shoved it in 2nd rather than 4th to blow out a level 5/6 over-rev.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses.
Good news - I spoke to the opc today and the service manager told me not to bother with the 111 point check. He said they have already had a good look at the car and all is well. When I asked about the over revs he read it out to me and then when I asked if he could email it to me he sent me the whole data output!
There are no revs outside stage 1 which is as good as I could have hoped for.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Range 1 only indicates its had an easy life .. rev ranges on a PDK and Porsche say they are not applicable as it cant happen ... i would tend to argue with that but thats Porsches Official answer .

You only ned to be concerned when ranges 4 and above are recorded .
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