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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Wanted: 997.1 gt3 Reply with quote

Hi, on the lookout for a tidy example of the above. Ideally with buckets seats, sports chrono & sunroof but history & condition of greater importance.
Coming out of a 997/1 c2s.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Wanted: 997.1 gt3 Reply with quote

Kettmark wrote:
Hi, on the lookout for a tidy example of the above. Ideally with buckets seats, sports chrono & sunroof but history & condition of greater importance.
Coming out of a 997/1 c2s.
Cash waiting for right car for Porsche enthusiast.


Good luck finding one with a sunroof.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone seen one with a sunroof or should I forget about that option?
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seem to be popular in the US but very rare in the UK.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some N. American spec cars had them iirc, but not UK models.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=114725&sid=ac8a43ca640b7ea3ad646b208e8dfec5

Bit more chat on GT3's with a sunroof.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are around then! I've searched the ones currently for sale on PH & AT but none of the 997.1's seem to have one.
Not the end of the world.
Any advise on must have spec anyone? I intend to use it as a daily driver, one up, as I have another vehicle for family & holiday use. For future resale, I'm probably best going for a club sport as the miles will rack up (circa 12k per year).
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have learnt something today as I would not have expected a GT3 to have a sunroof due to the wieght in the wrong place, but it seems 10% of them were specced with sunroof, but I imagine the majority of those went to the USA I expect it to be very rare in the UK. Question
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a sunroof on my 996 turbo and they can be the source of a few rattles in the headlining IME. Nothing major, but not good if you have real OCD about such things. Not sure if they improved the fit and issue on 997 iteration.

Cars with comfort seats go for less and would, IMHO, be better suited as a daily. I'm 6' and (now down to) 78kgs and the buckets are snug and not all that easy to get into or out of. I think it would get old pretty fast on a daily, whereas the comfort seats are still sports versions and a very good, even for longer trips. Each to their own though!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly wouldn’t restrict your search to sunroof cars. Focus on condition and history.

Fair play if you plan to use as a daily, but I certainly wouldn’t. Not just racking up miles, but racking up ‘dull’ miles (traffic etc) will soon become tiresome.

I bought mine on condition & price, and although I would have preferred buckets, I don’t regret buying a ‘comfort’ at all. 👍🏼
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: Wanted: 997.1 gt3 Reply with quote

Kettmark wrote:
Hi, on the lookout for a tidy example of the above. Ideally with buckets seats, sports chrono & sunroof but history & condition of greater importance.
Coming out of a 997/1 c2s.
Cash waiting for right car for Porsche enthusiast.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you ask Isysman if the roof panel that came off his car recently is still available - you could add the sunroof Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I certainly wouldn’t restrict your search to sunroof cars. Focus on condition and history.

Fair play if you plan to use as a daily, but I certainly wouldn’t. Not just racking up miles, but racking up ‘dull’ miles (traffic etc) will soon become tiresome.

I bought mine on condition & price, and although I would have preferred buckets, I don’t regret buying a ‘comfort’ at all. 👍🏼


Sunroof not a deal breaker, as you say, buy on condition.
911 virgin have just advertised one which is the cheapest in the country. Hopefully this will start a price correction on the other stagnant cars which have been on the market unsold for months.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunroof on a gT3 . no thanks

weight in the wrong place and ruins the look

having a sunroof in a 911 with the GT3 aero kit was always the give away it was not a GT3. well one of them alongside the size of the discs and calipers plus a few more.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still looking for a gt3. Anyone got one they want to get out of for a realistic price taking into consideration the current market?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've probably discounted it, but I know the 911v car, PM me if you want more info.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although you haven’t specified a CS (which will cost more) the buckets will be a harder find, so I assume you’ve already viewed the 42k miler with bucket seats at £75995? Sadly no SC but it’s been on for quite some time and a private seller, so surely worth a visit?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201812083100499

The Ashgood car is 48k and £72995. Today there are 3 on P Approved ranging £85-90k. After the "cheapies" on AT they kick off around £80k with 30k so £85k seems a fair starting point from Porsche which will get you 2 years warranty too (worth £2k or so)!!

I thought the 911v car was showing deposit paid a couple of weeks ago???

Maybe you’re still waiting for that "price correction" (a term I've seen a few times recently from people looking to buy but saying they’re over-priced, not just on Porsches) but in the time this thread’s been live I’ve seen various come and go (and some that have been lingering) and within the P Approved network they seem to be turning around well.

I always chuckle at "cash waiting for the right car" posts on this and other forums. Seems people think they’ll nick one from an owner looking for a quick sale. It’s always worth the enquiry but surely there comes a point when you’ve watched for a while and can then make an informed purchase or bide your time for the right one if nothing ticks your boxes.

I don’t get why people post these and then moan about prices – the market’s the market. Contrary to popular belief, just because they’re not selling within a few days (or even weeks, or months) doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worth less than advertised. You may be lucky and find a motivated private seller who needs the money, but a dealer who has paid say £60-70k for a car he’s going to list at £80k is unlikely to be worried about where his next meal is coming from and likely knows the market and the car’s value sufficiently well to invest a chunk of dough on something that he may have to sit on for a while.

If you aren’t prepared to pay the going rate then I’d suggest you aren’t really in the market for one. I’m certainly not saying you can’t afford one, I’m simply saying that if you aren’t wanting to pay the market rate then you’re not “in the market”, otherwise I’d say I’m in the market for a 918 but certainly not prepared to pay a £1m for one.

Recently someone (politely and honestly) called me and said they only had £20k for a rare car I had advertised at £28k and when I pointed them towards one at £21k but with twice the mileage of mine (120k vs 60k) the chap scoffed and said he wouldn’t want one with that mileage!! Well you can’t have it all ways! Sadly, in this game you’ve got to pay to play!

Anyway regarding the car, as you’ll be using it as a daily doing 12k / year I'd say there’s no real point in getting too low mileage an example as you’ll be driving a lot of value out of it. Some are going quickly and some aren't so I'm inclined to say the good ones (regardless of mileage) are the ones being bought so I'd say if you really want one, get cracking.

The Clubsports are certainly rarer to find. I’m not sure I’d want a clubsport as a daily but obviously that’s an entirely personal choice – I’d suggest an extended test drive to see if you could do 12k per year in it – the buckets don’t suit everyone.

The 991v car looks good value but obviously soon hit the 50k threshold which will impact its value- but everything’s relative and if you buy at entry level pricing when you come to sell you’ll likely be selling at entry level pricing too (at which level there are probably more buyers anyway so it could in fact be easier to move on when the time comes).

All of that said – it’s probably worth waiting a week or two until mine is delivered at which point no doubt values will fall off a cliff....

Good luck with you search! Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squelch wrote:
Although you haven’t specified a CS (which will cost more) the buckets will be a harder find, so I assume you’ve already viewed the 42k miler with bucket seats at £75995? Sadly no SC but it’s been on for quite some time and a private seller, so surely worth a visit?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201812083100499

The Ashgood car is 48k and £72995. Today there are 3 on P Approved ranging £85-90k. After the "cheapies" on AT they kick off around £80k with 30k so £85k seems a fair starting point from Porsche which will get you 2 years warranty too (worth £2k or so)!!

I thought the 911v car was showing deposit paid a couple of weeks ago???

Maybe you’re still waiting for that "price correction" (a term I've seen a few times recently from people looking to buy but saying they’re over-priced, not just on Porsches) but in the time this thread’s been live I’ve seen various come and go (and some that have been lingering) and within the P Approved network they seem to be turning around well.

I always chuckle at "cash waiting for the right car" posts on this and other forums. Seems people think they’ll nick one from an owner looking for a quick sale. It’s always worth the enquiry but surely there comes a point when you’ve watched for a while and can then make an informed purchase or bide your time for the right one if nothing ticks your boxes.

I don’t get why people post these and then moan about prices – the market’s the market. Contrary to popular belief, just because they’re not selling within a few days (or even weeks, or months) doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worth less than advertised. You may be lucky and find a motivated private seller who needs the money, but a dealer who has paid say £60-70k for a car he’s going to list at £80k is unlikely to be worried about where his next meal is coming from and likely knows the market and the car’s value sufficiently well to invest a chunk of dough on something that he may have to sit on for a while.

If you aren’t prepared to pay the going rate then I’d suggest you aren’t really in the market for one. I’m certainly not saying you can’t afford one, I’m simply saying that if you aren’t wanting to pay the market rate then you’re not “in the market”, otherwise I’d say I’m in the market for a 918 but certainly not prepared to pay a £1m for one.

Recently someone (politely and honestly) called me and said they only had £20k for a rare car I had advertised at £28k and when I pointed them towards one at £21k but with twice the mileage of mine (120k vs 60k) the chap scoffed and said he wouldn’t want one with that mileage!! Well you can’t have it all ways! Sadly, in this game you’ve got to pay to play!

Anyway regarding the car, as you’ll be using it as a daily doing 12k / year I'd say there’s no real point in getting too low mileage an example as you’ll be driving a lot of value out of it. Some are going quickly and some aren't so I'm inclined to say the good ones (regardless of mileage) are the ones being bought so I'd say if you really want one, get cracking.

The Clubsports are certainly rarer to find. I’m not sure I’d want a clubsport as a daily but obviously that’s an entirely personal choice – I’d suggest an extended test drive to see if you could do 12k per year in it – the buckets don’t suit everyone.

The 991v car looks good value but obviously soon hit the 50k threshold which will impact its value- but everything’s relative and if you buy at entry level pricing when you come to sell you’ll likely be selling at entry level pricing too (at which level there are probably more buyers anyway so it could in fact be easier to move on when the time comes).

All of that said – it’s probably worth waiting a week or two until mine is delivered at which point no doubt values will fall off a cliff....

Good luck with you search! Thumb


I don't think he wants to pay market value. He wants to pay the price after the price correction he has been forecasting.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windy101 wrote:
I don't think he wants to pay market value. He wants to pay the price after the price correction he has been forecasting.

Indeed. Thread started in October with "cash waiting" and then this week "still looking... cash waiting". So I guess he wants to buy now but wants to pay the "corrected" price.... On that front, if anyone has a well-spec'd 992 on order I'm happy to buy it from them at autumn 2019 / spring 2020 prices - "cash waiting"! Floor
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squelch wrote:
On that front, if anyone has a well-spec'd 992 on order I'm happy to buy it from them at autumn 2019 / spring 2020 prices - "cash waiting"! Floor


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