Car with Spacers - got any pictures?

Milo72 · 24 Sep 2018

I started another thread about spacers which has confirmed the route I plan to go... and put them on.
initially I thought 7mm in the front and 15mm on the back until I saw a member had 15mm all round. It got me thinking if I did 7 & 15 would it make the car look disproportionately wider at the rear?

Has anyone got any pictures of their car with spacers (ideally 7 & 15) so I can get an idea of how it looks.

I've got the stock 19" crab claw wheels, if it makes a difference.

Many Thanks

easternjets · 24 Sep 2018

I've put 15mm on rear and 7mm on front here's the before and after pics. I wouldn't go 15 mm on the front.

Milo72 · 24 Sep 2018

easternjets said:
I've put 15mm on rear and 7mm on front here's the before and after pics. I wouldn't go 15 mm on the front.

Nice one... thanks for this, the rear end looks much better and the look i'm hoping for. I did think that 15 on the front maybe too much.

Counter Of Beans · 24 Sep 2018

I've gone from 7 & 15 to 15 all round - it looks the same as Easternjets's pictures above in terms of stance. I much prefer the 15 mm all round; I thought the fronts were too tucked in with 7 mm spacers. Obviously it's down to personal preference.

Milo72 · 24 Sep 2018

Counter Of Beans said:
I've gone from 7 & 15 to 15 all round - it looks the same as Easternjets's pictures above in terms of stance. I much prefer the 15 mm all round; I thought the fronts were too tucked in with 7 mm spacers. Obviously it's down to personal preference.

Oh man..... now i'm thinking of that again. You got any pictures ?

easternjets · 24 Sep 2018

If I put a meter ruler vertically against the wheel when the car is stood on my garage floor, there is a gap of around 1mm between the ruler and the wing!
So if you fit an extra 8 mm onto the hub you are going to end up with a car that is technically illegal on UK roads, this is because the tyre will protrude outside the wing!
This is the reason why nearly everyone fits 15 mm on the rear and 7 mm on the front, to keep it legal and MOT friendly.

JordanH · 24 Sep 2018

easternjets said:
If I put a meter ruler vertically against the wheel when the car is stood on my garage floor, there is a gap of around 1mm between the ruler and the wing!
So if you fit an extra 8 mm onto the hub you are going to end up with a car that is technically illegal on UK roads, this is because the tyre will protrude outside the wing!
This is the reason why nearly everyone fits 15 mm on the rear and 7 mm on the front, to keep it legal and MOT friendly.

Are the offsets/widths of a front turbo wheel the same as a C2? - that's maybe where the difference is. :?:

MaxA · 24 Sep 2018

It depends on your alignment, the width of your rims and the profile and shoulder of the tyre: if you get a realignment and add negative camber, the wheels are pulled in and looked a lot more 'tucked', so wider spacers may be required. If you stick to the original factory settings and haven't lowered the car, then 15&7 mm might well be fine.

I ran 12mm all round on my C4S, but with new rims, tyres, H&R springs and a realignment, 12mm isn't quite enough at the rear, and is OK at the front. 7mm was insufficient at the front in my view.

easternjets · 24 Sep 2018

My alignments are as per factory set up, done last year.

Putting negative camber on just so that you can fit an extra wide spacer is utter madness, the only thing that's going to be 'tucked in' is you into the first hedge back you come to! Advising people to do this is dangerous.

Rich_r · 24 Sep 2018

have a look at my before and after pics here: 3/4 down the page. 7mm front and 15mm rear.

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=124178&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

JordanH · 24 Sep 2018

easternjets said:
My alignments are as per factory set up, done last year.

Putting negative camber on just so that you can fit an extra wide spacer is utter madness, the only thing that's going to be 'tucked in' is you into the first hedge back you come to! Advising people to do this is dangerous.

I've just looked it up to answer my own question and no the specs of a Turbo wheel and a C2 wheel appear to be different.

As far as I can tell from a quick google search standard specs of each front wheels are below:

Turbo - 19x8.5 ET55
Carrera - 19x8 ET57

So a Carrera wheel sits inside the arch 8.3mm more than a standard Turbo wheel, so you fitting a 7mm spacer on a turbo is the equivalent of fitting a 15.3mm spacer on a Carrera if the above wheel specifications are correct.

Phil 997 · 24 Sep 2018

Milo, remember when asking a question about spacers a huge amount depends on size of alloy as one of the porsche OE alloys is 1/2" wider than the others as already mentioned depends on tyres as some have a much wider rim protector and more vertical profile , and lowering and camber also play a part and will dictate what you need to get the stance perfect . this is why its suggested that guys start at 7mm and 15mm as that gives the best genetic look but you may find that after a while you want to tweak either fronts or rears a bit . I must have brought at least a dozen prs of spacers for both my 997s to get the stance I wanted those I didnt eventually need are easily sold on here or ebay.

now to add to your dilemma but to demonstrate what I mean heres some pics of my two

midnight blue car with acid accents are 5mm all round its a narrow body car with 8.5" front alloys and 11" rears on narrow body offset running MPS3 tyres and is lowered on techart springs.
The aqua blue car is a widebody and is running narrow body offset 8.5" and 11" alloys with MPSS tyres lowered on H&R springs it has 3mm front and 17mm rear spacers on it.
I honestly think your best bet is to do what Nick (eastern jets) suggests and get a straight length of something hold it against your arch edge and measure how much gap you have to the facing tyre wall or alloy whichever protrudes the furthest. that way you know just what will fit and then buy the closest to that size.for the perfect stance or just settle for the generally agreed 7mm and 15mm as the ideal but possibly not perfect option . :grin: welcome to the headache thats modding your car :grin: :thumb:

Counter Of Beans · 24 Sep 2018

Milo72, as requested here's pics of my car. The wheels are standard factory Classics (the front is 8 inches, ET 57, 15 mm spacer, factory alignment). The tyre is bang on flush with the arch. With the 7 mm spacer it was tucked in a little bit.
Phil's right, there's a wee bit of "suck it and see" involved and as MaxA points out, there's several variables involved. Anyway, hope it helps.

Phil 997 · 24 Sep 2018

Milo heres a perfect example of what we are saying have a look at my second pic down compare the tyre side profile with COB pics of his sidewalls his tyres are more protruding and have a quite big rim protector look at mine the sidewall is a lot more curved to the extent that the alloy seems to stick out more flush with the tyre, yet both will be 235 tyres, its a very good comparison of what we have been discussing :thumb: :thumb:

Milo72 · 24 Sep 2018

Thank you all for the photos and advice... you have some amazing cars there guys. I'm only 10 days into Porsche ownership and originally thought I would leave the car fairly stock but being on here a week and seeing your cars I have changed my mind..

Really appreciate you taking the time to help a newbie out.

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