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youngsyr
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject: Fitting 986 near side front wing to 996? Reply with quote

Hi all, I've got a minor ding in the nearside wing of my 2001 996 Cab, the sort that you could easily live with, but irks you when you see it.

There are used 986 (2003) wings available on eBay for £106 delivered in my car's colour.

So, I'm just wondering, will it be cheaper to buy a used wing rather than getting the dent repaired?

Is getting the wing off and on tricky?

For what it's worth, my car is vinyl wrapped, so any cosmetic scratches in the used wing will be covered anyway.

Thanks for any advice offered! Smile
 
  
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HSC911
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of those dent repair guys may be worth a call, but a new one for £100 then you can't go wrong IF it fits OK Dont know

Show us your car with the wrap on it please Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Fitting 986 near side front wing to 996? Reply with quote

youngsyr wrote:
Hi all, I've got a minor ding in the nearside wing of my 2001 996 Cab, the sort that you could easily live with, but irks you when you see it.

There are used 986 (2003) wings available on eBay for £106 delivered in my car's colour.

So, I'm just wondering, will it be cheaper to buy a used wing rather than getting the dent repaired?

Is getting the wing off and on tricky?

For what it's worth, my car is vinyl wrapped, so any cosmetic scratches in the used wing will be covered anyway.

Thanks for any advice offered! Smile


Putting a (2003) 986 Boxster wing on a (2001) 996 Cab? Why?

Get the dent repaired or use a 996 wing.

You own a Porsche, do it properly or buy something cheaper if you can't afford it.
 
  
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roboxm3
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why spend more money than you need just because you can afford it?

Is there even technically such a thing as a "996 wing"?
 
  
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Martin996RSR
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why g7jhp? Becuase they are almost certainly identical parts. More to the point, why make such a needlessly sh1tty post?

To the OP: There is no reason why not on the face of it. Check the part numbers and see if they are the same (they may well be) and if they are then do it. If they aren't, then go ahead and buy the wing anyway and if it's not the right one then just bung it back on ebay. The wings are held on by a bunch of bolts, most of which are visible, but a fiew are trickier to find. Several formites have recently removed/replaced theirs, so should be able to tell you where to find them all. ELA and Mistercorn in particular. Good luck, I'm sure it will work out fine. thumbsup
 
  
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g911omr
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were me I would repair the existing wing, assuming that isn't too bad.
Come resale time a prospective buyer may be suspicious of why it needed a new panel.
I know that I would.
 
  
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ragpicker
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the same part, follow the link in my sig to see how easy it is to replace the wings (albeit on a boxster - which is identical to the 996 in every way from the doors forward).

Your issue will be that the paint will not match, even if it is the same colour. Sun and age fades the paint and so whilst it will look very similar it won't be a perfect match.

But yes, its not difficult and the parts are the same.

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youngsyr
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies.

I hadn't considered that the paint woudn't match my original colour due it fading at different rates. My panels are 17 years old now after all.

So, I think I'll just get the original one repaired (as long as they don't need to paint it).

Here's a pic of the wrapped car, for the person who asked:

 
  
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HSC911
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool

So cool I posted twice...on purpose of course!!! PC

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the real numberplate? 996CAB?

If so thats one hell of a plate to have!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin996RSR wrote:
Why g7jhp? Becuase they are almost certainly identical parts. More to the point, why make such a needlessly sh1tty post?




Yeah

That reply reminds me of P'heads and we could do without this forum going down that route. Manners cost nothing, so maybe pause for reflection before posting the standard P'heads "It's a Porsche, so why try and find a more cost effective option" b*ll*cks.

As said OP, get a dent guy out for £30-£50. Way less hassle.

Raggy I'm guessing there's a prefix letter on there too. Hopefully it's an "A" then that's still a pretty good plate.

Cool colour OP, reminds me of Mr JWWs old GT3. Nice side stripe too, makes all the difference.
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Ghianightmare
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere recently that the Boxster wing was slightly different - I think it is brackets on the inside or something.

Have a look at Mister Corns C4 thread to see what is involved in taking the wings off as he did it recently and posted lots of photos.

I would get some paintless dent removal done before taking a wing off. I have got great results on my Boxster and 911 with the paintless process. If you start taking wings off, nuts and clips will need to be replaced, the car is off the road and something will break. Sods law.

Best of luck
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youngsyr
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
Is that the real numberplate? 996CAB?

If so thats one hell of a plate to have!


It has a prefix, but it's a good one (IMO), cost me peanuts on eBay as well. Grin

Thanks for the compliments everyone, the blue hood and interior kind of limits your options and the side stripes were a bit of a gamble (you can't really tell in the pic, but they're the same colour as the hood), but I think it turned out great.
 
  
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Martin996RSR
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not normally a fan of wraps or cabs, but I think you've made a great set of design choices there, it looks really good.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm loving the colour of that wrap. It reminds me of an old-school 911 colour Minerva Blue Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. That looks fantastic
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

986 wing works perfectly on a 996, a handy mate of mine did it many years ago after his brother hit the central reservation many moons ago.
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asterix_the_gaul
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

986 and 996.1 are identical parts for the wing. end of.

colour match if still on factory paint is likely to be identical for second hand wings, this may be different if cars have been in sunny countries outside all their lives due to UV damage but simply not a problem in the UK. one blessing..

yes, PDR is going to be faster cheaper and easier than replacing wing, there should be no need to remove wrap to push dent out as long as can be accessed by removing light or wheel liner etc. they sometimes pull a dent which may be a problem with a wrap: get a pdr guy to look at it and tell you
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Fitting 986 near side front wing to 996? Reply with quote

g7jhp wrote:
youngsyr wrote:
Hi all, I've got a minor ding in the nearside wing of my 2001 996 Cab, the sort that you could easily live with, but irks you when you see it.

There are used 986 (2003) wings available on eBay for £106 delivered in my car's colour.

So, I'm just wondering, will it be cheaper to buy a used wing rather than getting the dent repaired?

Is getting the wing off and on tricky?

For what it's worth, my car is vinyl wrapped, so any cosmetic scratches in the used wing will be covered anyway.

Thanks for any advice offered! Smile


Putting a (2003) 986 Boxster wing on a (2001) 996 Cab? Why?

Get the dent repaired or use a 996 wing.

You own a Porsche, do it properly or buy something cheaper if you can't afford it.


OP apologies if my post came across as rude (it does red that way), that wasn't my intent.

The idea of fitting a non-standard part sounded like a short cut, but as the 986 and 996 wings are the same it's an option. My bad.

If the paint isn't damaged, I'd certainly look to use a good dent repairer as a first stop. The paint will then look original and it's got to cost less than having to stripe, prep and respray.

Look forward to seeing the finished result. Smile
 
  
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