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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Koni TA Sport shocks Reply with quote

Just looking for any feedback on these shocks. Ive had them on other cars and found them to be good but cant find anything specifically for 996 application feedback.

I would be combining with either H&R or Eibach springs. I have a £1000 limit on what I can spend on suspension and TBH don't want to go cheaper coilovers route.

I can get a Koni TA sport kit + H&R springs for my budget.

Car is fast road use, predominantly on fairly bumpy A & B roads.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say yet as they aren't fitted, but mine have just been delivered... Koni Sport kit with H&R -30mm springs.

Bought the kit on Ebay from a German seller - just under £1k delivered.

I wanted my car lower, but didn't want to ruin ride quality, and the various owner comments I read said they can be anything from quite soft, to very hard.

Really looking forward to getting them fitted as my current shocks have 170k miles on them, and although the front still feels OK, the rear feels quite 'uncomfortable' over bumps at speed.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When are you fitting them? Most places have kits for basically bang on £1000.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soon as my Indy confirm a date... I would hope in the next few weeks (they are notoriously busy!).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What other options are you looking at?

I considered...

MO30... but wanted the car lower than -10mm.
Straight replacements... but works out more expensive once I'd bought springs.
Koni FSDs... mixed feedback on whether they would be OK with lowering springs
Coilovers... anything quality costs at least double the Koni kit, and I don't trust the cheap far east stuff for the mileage I do.

Could only find a bit of info on 996 fitment, but Koni's do get good feedback on other cars. Quality is decent too.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much that's where Im at. I have M030 at the moment but would like to go a little lower and good opportunity to get some new shocks.

Ive used Koni TA on cars in the past and I do like their road manners/damping. The damping adjustment also does help to an extent but I know its fairly limited.
Actually thinking about it the adjustment is usually top end and I haven't looked into accessibility when on the car, are the top of the struts easily accessible?

FSD's ruled out due to drop. Bistiens would be B6 or better but Id like to try Koni. Also the H&R cup kit but from memory there normally quite a hard ride.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Koni's are externally adjustable on the car.

They come with a knob that goes on the top of the damper. Fronts are accessible if you remove the plastic cover from the front 'trunk. Not sure about the rears.

I think they only have 3 settings.

Just picked mine up from our goods-in and had a quick look at them... they aren't Ohlins sexy, but they do look nice!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah rear adjustment was more what I was thinking. I remember them having more than 3 settings. Was more like 7 or 8 positions on previous ones.

Any booklets with them with recommendations on settings?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there's something in the box that looks like instructions. I'll have a look at it when I get out of work and let you know... I can scan it here at work if necessary.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one experience I've had with Koni FSDs...

They came as standard on my wife's Abarth and both rears were leaking by 5000 miles. Replaced under warranty but that's pretty bad.

On the other hand is it a case of Abarth saying to Koni "We want your dampers for our cars but for 'X' amount of Euros, hence Koni say "ok" but then go on to supply Abarth a watered down version??

Who knows but I'd personally avoid them after that. The Abarth isn't a heavy car and my wife just pootles around in hers.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had any issues before with them so could be a platform or batch specific thing. Don't have any issues with using them, just seems no one has Laughing .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally bud, just thought I'd mention it.

I'd probably still choose Koni over a lot of the other options, such as cheapie coilovers etc. Thumb

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eibach springs -30mm, 'Engineered and tested to work perfectly with stock dampers' so Eibach say, does that bring the FSD/Special Active dampers back into consideration ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a look at the 'instructions' last night (they are very limited!). Shocks are adjustable via a knob on the top of the strut. Range of rotation is 720* from full soft to full hard, and there are no clicks, so infinitely adjustable.

jezgreen911 wrote:
Eibach springs -30mm, 'Engineered and tested to work perfectly with stock dampers' so Eibach say, does that bring the FSD/Special Active dampers back into consideration ?


Not sure how that works... a -30mm spring will make the damper work more in to its range than a standard height spring.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's booked in for fitting w/c 24th Sept.

If you can wait until they are fitted I'm happy to provide feedback, or meet up and let you have a drive, Coullstar. Where are you based?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About as far away as you could get. Feedback will be great, I doubt I'll be doing anything before that but please offer any feedback on this thread. Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, just noticed you’re in deepest, darkest northern Scotland!

You’ll have much better roads round there than I have in the southeast.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to your feedback, looks to be great buy Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jezgreen911 wrote:
Looking forward to your feedback, looks to be great buy Thumb


Fitting next week, so will provide some initial thoughts the following week.

Quite excited to see what the car feels like once they are on. Cup steering wheel has already massively improved the driving position, and coupled with new suspension I expect it to feel like a new car!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put shocks on one of these non Hartech'd cars and if it goes bang you're into McLaren 720S money. Fact.

Don't do it.

Keep it moving, nothing to see here.
 
  
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