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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: not long now Reply with quote

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........... the only thing I’d like to have time for is the Mercedes Museum - but that means another drive to Stuttgart on Thursday as there’s no time on Tuesday.



Do you realise that Oberhausen is over 260 miles from Stuttgart? That's a hell of a round trip just to see some old Mercs. Grin

Regarding the time you'd need at Dinslaken, as a first timer I'd be surprised if you could see everything worth seeing in less than 4 hours. It doesn't really get going until late morning - especially if it's wet. That said, even if you stay there until 2pm it leaves plenty of time to get to The Classic Remise for a good look round before it closes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: not long now Reply with quote

T8 wrote:

Do you realise that Oberhausen is over 260 miles from Stuttgart? That's a hell of a round trip just to see some old Mercs. Grin

Regarding the time you'd need at Dinslaken, as a first timer I'd be surprised if you could see everything worth seeing in less than 4 hours. It doesn't really get going until late morning - especially if it's wet. That said, even if you stay there until 2pm it leaves plenty of time to get to The Classic Remise for a good look round before it closes.


Thanks, but yes I knew it was a 4+ hour drive which is why I won't return there on Thursday. It will wait for another time - I'd much rather stay with the group and looking forward to the trip, just need to get it all booked with Longers now. As for Classic Remise I will decide on the day - I want to enjoy the day at Dinslaken and if there's plenty to see and folk to chat to then I won't go this time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G2 wrote:
diverzeusy wrote:
Gorsh-Hi Gordon, I understand you are traveling from the IOM ??
quite a trek to Dover, ok in a Porsche though Wink
I was looking to get a meeting point at Eurotunnel on Sat 27th April, time TBC and then travel together to the first hotel in France but not too far though??.
I also wondered if on the next day, drive to Spa we could take in the old classic Chimay circuit and the Ardenne region with some cracking routes??? (Longers help please Confused )
Anyway running away with myself,
meet at the tunnel 1st Thumb
Cheers, Paul.


The reference to meatballs earlier is a great restaurant stop a few hours out of Calais and close to that circuit. It also puts you on some great cross country roads to Spa...including the “911” 👍 I’m sure longers will have a few ideas for you Thumb

We are taking the same route much earlier on the Saturday so will try to remember to post on here if there are any diversions etc but I’m sure it will be fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically I'll be the same as Phil 997... He's just so cuddly.

Behind the scenes at Spa Francorchamps Monday 29 April
Please specify the number of cars & people.
1. Bikeracer x2 (1 car)
2. Gorsh x1 (1 car)
3. DucatiRob x1 (1car)
4. Diverzeusy x2 (1car)
etc

Stuttgart Tuesday 30 April
Factory Tour
Please specify the number of people.
1. FRP x1
2. Phil 997
3. chaser x1
4. kursh x1
5. G2 x2
6. Bikeracer x2
7. Gorsh x1
8. DucatiRob x1
9. Diverzeusy x2
10. DrJimBone x1

Restaurant Christophorus - lunch
Please specify the number of people.
1.FRP provisional as dependent on when factory tour finishes
2. Phil 997
3. chaser x1
4. kursh x1
5. G2 x2
6. Bikeracer x2
7. Gorsh x1
8. DucatiRob x1
9. Diverzeusy x2
10. DrJimBone x1

Restaurant Christophorus - dinner
Please specify the number of people.
1.
2.
etc

ELA’s tour around the Moselle/Eifel/Huensruck to Oberhausen Tuesday 30 April
Please specify the number of cars.
1.
2.
etc

Dinslaken entrance
Please specify the number of cars & people.
1.FRP - 1 person and one car
2. Phil 997
3. chaser x1
4. kursh x1
5. G2 x2
6. Bikeracer x2
7. Gorsh x1
8. DucatiRob x1
9. Diverzeusy x2
10. Squelch x1
11.DrJimBone x1

Stuttgart Thursday 2 May
Factory Tour
Please specify the number of people.
1.
2.
etc

Restaurant Christophorus - dinner
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1.
2.
etc
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: not long now Reply with quote

Gorsh wrote:
T8 wrote:

Do you realise that Oberhausen is over 260 miles from Stuttgart? That's a hell of a round trip just to see some old Mercs. Grin

Regarding the time you'd need at Dinslaken, as a first timer I'd be surprised if you could see everything worth seeing in less than 4 hours. It doesn't really get going until late morning - especially if it's wet. That said, even if you stay there until 2pm it leaves plenty of time to get to The Classic Remise for a good look round before it closes.


Thanks, but yes I knew it was a 4+ hour drive which is why I won't return there on Thursday. It will wait for another time - I'd much rather stay with the group and looking forward to the trip, just need to get it all booked with Longers now. As for Classic Remise I will decide on the day - I want to enjoy the day at Dinslaken and if there's plenty to see and folk to chat to then I won't go this time.
Gordon.


Classic Remise is not that far from Dinslaken, about half an hour if memory serves, I stopped off there en route from Antwerp to Oberhausen, will visit again this year after the show as didn't get to see everything, plus there is a big Ducati dealer next door thumbsup
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone

This is part of an email I have just sent to everyone who has contacted me about the Factory tour...

"I am very sorry but it will not be possible to visit the Factory that week. I had previously been assured there were spaces available for our group on Tuesday 30 April but when I contacted Porsche to confirm the booking they told me all tours that day were full. Since then I have asked about the other days that week and all of the tours are full.

To say that I am embarrassed and frustrated about this is an understatement - I have never had something like it happen before. I can only imagine how you must be feeling...

You are still able to take part in the private tour of Spa Francorchamps on Monday and visit the Porsche Museum (including lunch at Restaurant Christophoros) on Tuesday before continuing to Dinslaken.

As you may already know, the viability of the Spa tour depends on the number of people taking part so I would appreciate it if you can complete the booking form or contact me phone email or phone to confirm your plans as soon as possible
."

The new options are listed on this page of my website and below...

If you want to do something else on your way to or from Dinslaken please let me know and I'll be happy to help.

Behind the scenes at Spa Francorchamps
This has to be on Monday 29th because the rest of the week the circuit is closed while they get ready for the WEC weekend.

The costs of the tour are fixed regardless of the number of cars taking part so based on 2018 I have assumed there will be 12 cars. If there are less the price will need to be adjusted.

- 1 night bed and breakfast
- Private guided tour of Spa Francorchamps including 2 laps of the circuit
- Twin or double room per person £96
- Single room per person £129

Stuttgart
Option 1 - Museum visit on Tuesday morning followed by lunch in Restaurant Christophoros then the drive to Oberhausen.
Option 2 - Drive to Stuttgart Thursday morning, visit the museum and have dinner in Restaurant Christophoros.

Dinslaken
In previous years the organisers have insisted payment is made up front to guarantee a parking/display area in the centre of the arena. However because they now trust me and know that if I say there will be 20 cars then 20 cars will turn up they have agreed you can pay in cash on the gate this year (€30 for 1 car with a maximum of 2 people).

Your parking/display area is in usual place - see bottom left of the arena in the following image.



What next?
Please let me know what you would like to do as soon as possible, especially if that includes the visit to Spa.

You will also need to update the following list who is doing what and when.

Sorry guys Sad Sad Sad Sad

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behind the scenes at Spa Francorchamps Monday 29 April
Please specify the number of cars & people.
1. Bikeracer x2 (1 car) TBC
2. Gorsh x1 (1 car) TBC
3. DucatiRob x1 (1car) TBC
4. Diverzeusy x2 (1car) TBC
etc

Stuttgart Tuesday 30 April
Restaurant Christophorus - lunch
Please specify the number of people.
1.FRP provisional as dependent on when factory tour finishes TBC
2. Phil 997 x1 TBC
3. chaser x1 TBC
4. kursh x1 TBC
5. G2 x2 TBC
6. Bikeracer x2 TBC
7. Gorsh x1 TBC
8. DucatiRob x1 TBC
9. Diverzeusy x2 TBC
10. DrJimBone x1 TBC

ELA’s tour around the Moselle/Eifel/Huensruck to Oberhausen Tuesday 30 April
Please specify the number of cars.
1.
2.
etc

Dinslaken entrance
Please specify the number of cars & people.
1.FRP - 1 person and one car
2. Phil 997
3. chaser x1
4. kursh x1
5. G2 x2
6. Bikeracer x2
7. Gorsh x1
8. DucatiRob x1
9. Diverzeusy x2
10. Squelch x1
11.DrJimBone x1

Stuttgart Thursday 2 May
Restaurant Christophorus - dinner
Please specify the number of people.
1.
2.
etc
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TERRY, I suggest you change the topic title to point people to this page now Wink

DONE @ 6:12pm Thumb - Terry
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame on the factory tour....Thanks for the update Iam

What do peps think of museum and Mercedes museum tour in Stuttgart !!! Just an option

Or do we take over Spa !

Come on guys,,,,OPTIONS OPTIONS OPTIONS... I am pretty laid back

Do we think about squatting near Richard for a "ELA" TOUR and adjust things
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FRP wrote:
Shame on the factory tour....Thanks for the update Iam

What do peps think of museum and Mercedes museum tour in Stuttgart !!! Just an option

Or do we take over Spa !

Come on guys,,,,OPTIONS OPTIONS OPTIONS... I am pretty laid back

Do we think about squatting near Richard for a "ELA" TOUR and adjust things


We are doing Saturday afternoon / night at the Leffe brewery in Belgium, Sunday short runs around lux. somewhere lux/ Germany boarder Sunday night as have done a spa tour (which is well worth it at least once).

Disclaimer I booked the factory tour for Monday afternoon a while ago. I’ll check when we get there to see of there are any last minute spaces free on the Tuesday if others are heading to Stuttgart ( but don’t bank on it), will try bribery if it helps!

Tuesday We are planning Porsche museum late morning, lunch and then Mercedes in the afternoon. A couple of hours at each is fine if travelling up to Dins later on.

Fully understand Longers and know he will be unhappy about the factory tour, they were a bit of a pain when I booked as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am assuming Ian has reminded them who won the war and also spoken slowly and loudly in English using an assertive manner and both those have failed Grin Grin

So my thoughts are Stuttgart as planned, get up Tues morning have nice breakfast visit Porsche museum maybe Merc as well if time have lunch or lunch and merc museum whichever option most want to do. then head to Oberhousen which is about 4 hrs but theres a lot of unrestricted autoBahn on that route so probably much less than 4 hrs , plan to arrive between 5pm and 6pm at Oberhausen in the bar 5 mins later Grin Grin
I personally am not too worried about the factory tour for several reasons .a/ there won't be any 997 bits for me to pinch f) and in the past the destinations were secondary to the laugh had driving to them and enjoying a beer or two with the guys when at the hotels.

So I plan to stick to the original plan minus the factory but maybe to inc the merc museum instead Thumb whats everyone else thoughts. Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil DITTO

I am booked into the V8 hotel on the monday night and its about 30km from the Porsche museum and the Merc museum is 10km from there ???

I have done Porsche museum already and i have heard good things about the Merc museum ?. Porsche for 10am ish, then onto Merc to ensure we are on the road to Oberhausen at a suitable time....Just an idea

Porsche museum,,,, christophorus restaurant and then onto oberhausen

Loads of options

Totally open to any general ideas

As you, its about the journey, company and beer of course
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real shame about the factory tour, but if it can't be done, it can't be done! Will stick to my plans for the Spa on the Monday followed by Stuttgart and museum, don't mind the Merc museum unless there is anything else to see en route to Oberhausen!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a great pity about the factory - one of the things I didn't want to miss, hopefully it won't be too long before there's another opportunity to go on a group visit.

So, after giving it some thought I have just replied to Ian confirming I will continue anyway, so Calais Saturday, Spa Sunday night, tour and laps on Monday, Stuttgart Monday night, Porsche Museum/Lunch and maybe Mercedes Museum Tuesday plus drive to Dinslaken, Dinslaken Tuesday/Wednesday nights plus show on Wednesday, Thursday back to Calais - (have asked Ian if he can help with an interesting route).
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So today an option to head to the ring instead of Stuttgart was discussed over breakfast . Dont know
But I think I will see what other are thinking before settling on a plan as a lot depends on what the other south coast guys want to do as I will be travelling with them .

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still up for Stuttgart and will do the museum, plus Mercedes if enough go.
I have an invite to a friends 50th on the 27th, in Germany, so I may go early and stay over till the Monday and meet up at the V8 hotel.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaser wrote:
I am still up for Stuttgart and will do the museum, plus Mercedes if enough go.
I have an invite to a friends 50th on the 27th, in Germany, so I may go early and stay over till the Monday and meet up at the V8 hotel.


Steve, will Cush go with you or come with the rest of us if you go early
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
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I am still up for Stuttgart and will do the museum, plus Mercedes if enough go.
I have an invite to a friends 50th on the 27th, in Germany, so I may go early and stay over till the Monday and meet up at the V8 hotel.


Steve, will Cush go with you or come with the rest of us if you go early


I imagine he will go with your crowd as he is busy with his business at the moment so will maybe not want to take extra days away.
I will inform him of my plans and let you know.
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OK mate thanks Thumb Thumb
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May be bringing a McLaren instead of the Porsche On this trip.

Will that be acceptable?
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