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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How long do Hartech guarantee it for Dont know Only a matter of time before you blow it up again Surprised


Grin I have no idea mate, but it should now be Philproof which it seems is the next level up from bullet proof Floor Floor
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That pic looks great, have you had anything upgraded or just a straight rebuild?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately Hartech are not quite ready yet with upgrade options for the gen2.
They are working hard to get them ready but as I am sure we all understand new developments need considerable testing in various conditions to ensure they are robust enough for Hartech to put their name behind something and offer it for sale.
The Gen2 options I am sure will roll out during 2019 but unfortunately for me mine went bang a bit to early to take full advantage of many of the future proof and bullet proof option that will be made available for the gen2 in the same way as they have for the gen1 .
On a positive note the engine is basically new now and as the gen2 engine is supposedly more robust anyway I hope to be trouble free for a few years . Also after discussions with Baz and Grant I realise that the future proof options and upgrades are always cheaper if you take them a good fully working engine, so those options will still be open to me over the next couple of years to consider.
Surprised Surprised blimey just read that back I sound like a salesman for Hartech Grin Grin but due to the great communications with Hartech I now understand the process and whats involved when they develop improvements and how much time effort and money is spend by them trying to find ways to improve our Porsche ownership experiences. Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gut instinct says sacrilege. A 997.2 GT3RS would be in my never sell or mod garage
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!


Floor Well anyone with a GT3RS who needs more speed is likely to have $59k , but is it really needed and thats a big chunk of money Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!


Floor Well anyone with a GT3RS who needs more speed is likely to have $59k , but is it really needed and thats a big chunk of money Grin


What has happened to the real Phil Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
On the plus side Phil, make sure you listen to Baz when he explains to you how to run the car in. I think you might be pleasantly surprised Drive
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!


Floor Well anyone with a GT3RS who needs more speed is likely to have $59k , but is it really needed and thats a big chunk of money Grin


What has happened to the real Phil Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
On the plus side Phil, make sure you listen to Baz when he explains to you how to run the car in. I think you might be pleasantly surprised Drive


You will be! I was! "Drive it spiritedly but not loading it too much. ie. change down to go up hills don't drive on the torque."
This is what I am doing for mine, but be prepared, it seems to get through a bit of oil!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
Also after discussions with Baz and Grant.......


.........blimey just read that back I sound like a salesman for Hartech Grin


It's hard not too. Chatting with those guys quickly puts you into sales pitch mode. They know more about these engines than Porsche themselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Also after discussions with Baz and Grant.......


.........blimey just read that back I sound like a salesman for Hartech Grin


It's hard not too. Chatting with those guys quickly puts you into sales pitch mode. They know more about these engines than Porsche themselves.


I do agree Alex the depth of knowledge when they explain something to you is amazing . I have had a number of what were going to be 2 min chats that ended up with me listening for 30mins Grin Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jl-c wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!


Floor Well anyone with a GT3RS who needs more speed is likely to have $59k , but is it really needed and thats a big chunk of money Grin


What has happened to the real Phil Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
On the plus side Phil, make sure you listen to Baz when he explains to you how to run the car in. I think you might be pleasantly surprised Drive


You will be! I was! "Drive it spiritedly but not loading it too much. ie. change down to go up hills don't drive on the torque."
This is what I am doing for mine, but be prepared, it seems to get through a bit of oil!



Yes chatting to both Baz and Grant , I was told not to drive at the same speed on the motorway and to use the gears and drive enthusiastically . using all the rev range. driving economically and running in dont seem to go together Grin Grin so now looking forward to it Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
jl-c wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!


Floor Well anyone with a GT3RS who needs more speed is likely to have $59k , but is it really needed and thats a big chunk of money Grin


What has happened to the real Phil Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
On the plus side Phil, make sure you listen to Baz when he explains to you how to run the car in. I think you might be pleasantly surprised Drive


You will be! I was! "Drive it spiritedly but not loading it too much. ie. change down to go up hills don't drive on the torque."
This is what I am doing for mine, but be prepared, it seems to get through a bit of oil!



Yes chatting to both Baz and Grant , I was told not to drive at the same speed on the motorway and to use the gears and drive enthusiastically . using all the rev range. driving economically and running in dont seem to go together Grin Grin so now looking forward to it Grin


Drive enthusiastically going forward Phil, not in neutral! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
jl-c wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
medmick wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Rojdog wrote:
That's a shame but a good as new engine will still be just as sweet.

Haven't had any work done by Hartech before, the only place I would really consider when rebuilding.

Would love the 4l upgrade when its ready but I'm still poor from buying my car!


yes the 4ltr does sound like it will be a great car , and even better if your running a 3.6 and take it to 4ltr. as it would be even more significant an improvement Thumb Thumb


Just read in total911 that Sharkwerks are doing a 4.1 conversion for 997 GT3 and GT3 RS variants, starting at $59,000!!!!!


Floor Well anyone with a GT3RS who needs more speed is likely to have $59k , but is it really needed and thats a big chunk of money Grin


What has happened to the real Phil Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
On the plus side Phil, make sure you listen to Baz when he explains to you how to run the car in. I think you might be pleasantly surprised Drive


You will be! I was! "Drive it spiritedly but not loading it too much. ie. change down to go up hills don't drive on the torque."
This is what I am doing for mine, but be prepared, it seems to get through a bit of oil!



Yes chatting to both Baz and Grant , I was told not to drive at the same speed on the motorway and to use the gears and drive enthusiastically . using all the rev range. driving economically and running in dont seem to go together Grin Grin so now looking forward to it Grin


Drive enthusiastically going forward Phil, not in neutral! Very Happy



Floor Floor I hear what your says Mick Grin Grin no reving the nads off it until its run in nooo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You will be! I was! "Drive it spiritedly but not loading it too much. ie. change down to go up hills don't drive on the torque."
This is what I am doing for mine, but be prepared, it seems to get through a bit of oil!


Hartech told me to expect oil consumption fairly high and they were right, for the first 5k I'd estimate is was using as much oil as it was before the rebuild, which was never that bad anyway, around half a litre every 1k, I think it's a little less now! Just shows that these engines do burn oil Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet you can’t wait to get her back! Any idea of when Phil?
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Chris, Hoping for back end of Jan. I really am looking forward to driving it again , I have only had it running for a couple of weeks since getting back from Dinslaken last May. Grin what with the gearbox clutch and flywheel first then the engine. Thumb Thumb
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And in the meanwhile Phil is keeping the oil price up by using the Bentley as his daily driver....

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And in the meanwhile Phil is keeping the oil price up by using the Bentley as his daily driver....

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That is very true Mike and at 11mpg I am looking forward to getting the environmentally friendly 18 mpg Porsche back Grin Grin
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