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Jptoon
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
Jptoon wrote:
Main Force Patrol wrote:
Sorry to hear about your PDK issues, what a pain in the backside that is !


Is that £9k for a new box plus
VAT
Labour
Other associate bits
Oils, grease etc

Or is that £9k all in ?

The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty, unfortunately it also means my credit card will take a large battering too - Swings & Roundabouts I guess.


It’s an all in price, or will be when they’ve finalised it. Box istelf is exchange only.


Did you ask them why it is exchange if they are not fixable?

Porsche AB will not allow dealers to "fix" the boxes, they will only allow them to do standard diagnostics and if it's not a software issue they must be returned as an exchange for a new unit. Quite an interesting topic when you think that the majority of boxes across all models are now PDK...

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jptoon wrote:
Main Force Patrol wrote:
Sorry to hear about your PDK issues, what a pain in the backside that is !


Is that £9k for a new box plus
VAT
Labour
Other associate bits
Oils, grease etc

Or is that £9k all in ?

The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty, unfortunately it also means my credit card will take a large battering too - Swings & Roundabouts I guess.


It’s an all in price, or will be when they’ve finalised it. Box istelf is exchange only.


Well to a degree that’s a relief that it’s not plus plus plus and Porsche Tax but still a bill you’d think wasn’t coming Sad
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty........



Is that the one from Newcastle Question

If so, it's a Tiptronic like mine. I had a free replacement box at 50k miles and another 10k miles after that. You might be glad of that warranty. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
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The reason I ask, is it’s always a bit of mystery as to how these items really do cost, fortunately for me I’m just about to pick up Turbo from OPC with its new shiny 2 year warranty........



Is that the one from Newcastle Question

If so, it's a Tiptronic like mine. I had a free replacement box at 50k miles and another 10k miles after that. You might be glad of that warranty. Wink


No no..... It’s the Red Turbo Manual I bought back in January, I just bought a warranty from the local OPC but I’ve been on holiday so it’s been there for 3 weeks on holiday too Very Happy 111 point check done and passed etc etc etc
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mrgrey
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure I read here a while back that the PDK box was made by ZF for VAG/Porsche and is sold variously as PDK/S Tronic/DSG etc.

I thought at the time the member who made the claim seemed quite knowledgeable his point being that as a ZF product it could repaired by a ZF agent assuming that parts are available of course.

A few years back it was said that PDK replacement would be £12k that's not going to be viable in future when cars drop in values to say c£25k, perhaps then they will become repairable!
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That it’s a ZF unit is well known. They make a few variants for Porsche and it’s unlikely the 911 ones get used anywhere outside Porsche. A quick Google for 7DT-45 will bring up the two 911 varieties (2WD and AWD) plus the Cayman/Boxster version.

I seem to remember finding the box was updated in 2011 and then in 2012 when the 991 appeared.

It would be great if someone would start rebuilding them. I’ve not seen any repaired in the U.K.

Most of the replacement quotes posted on the Internet are hugely inflated. I think the £12k is one they liked to mention in the context of warranty renewal. Real cost in a 997 is about half that all in before any goodwill.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic919, thanks for that explanation it makes sense £12k for a warranty but much less outside warranty, I could live with £6k - just.

As time goes by there will be an increasing need for PDK rebuilds, let's hope that a Hartech type operation comes along to meet the need.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porsche GB have offered me a goodwill contribution which effectly gives me a free PDK box. Ancilliaries, oils/fluids and Labour charges etc. will still see a bill of circa £3k from the OPC in Newcastle, but I’m grateful for the gesture and have approved the repair work now. No boxes available in the UK though so there’s one on its way from Germany for me 👍
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jp - that's great news and good to see Porsche doing the right thing. I actually remember being in OPC at Munich with my old 997 once and having a good chat with one of the parts guys there. He mentioned that I should be glad that my car was manual rather than PDK as it was "impossible" to repair the PDK units...any issue = a new 'box.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news. The box should arrive quickly and hopefully you’ll be back on the road in a week.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad its working out for you, glad I bought a manual car after this.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jptoon wrote:
Porsche GB have offered me a goodwill contribution which effectly gives me a free PDK box. Ancilliaries, oils/fluids and Labour charges etc. will still see a bill of circa £3k from the OPC in Newcastle, but I’m grateful for the gesture and have approved the repair work now. No boxes available in the UK though so there’s one on its way from Germany for me 👍


That's a superb result and a very generous gesture. Hope the car is returned soon, good luck!
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a great result from OPC Newcastle good job you asked as I dare say they would have let you stump up the £9k without questioning it.

One of the members on here who's in our local group had a recurring issue with his Cayman and was told the same as everyone else. that it's a sealed unit and is exch only. In the end he traded it for a manual Cayman!

Was in our local OPC today and there was a guy test driving a GT3 RS that's for sale, yours for a £195 k. Did look really nice in White.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jptoon wrote:
Porsche GB have offered me a goodwill contribution which effectly gives me a free PDK box. Ancilliaries, oils/fluids and Labour charges etc. will still see a bill of circa £3k from the OPC in Newcastle, but I’m grateful for the gesture and have approved the repair work now. No boxes available in the UK though so there’s one on its way from Germany for me 👍


Thats a result .. i would have been very surprised if they had not but that is a larger contribution than i was expecting .


The main reason we cant repair these boxes is a lack of spare parts .. if anyone finds a company that can supply parts then i will certainly talk to my Boss about doing them .
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodson supply the bits for PDKs?

see the link and video above!

a third of all GTR's have their bits in
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbiej wrote:
Dodson supply the bits for PDKs?

see the link and video above!

a third of all GTR's have their bits in


Forgive me for being stupid .. but lets face it i am at times but the link / video .. i cant see it Embarassed
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