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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:01 pm    Post subject: air con Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ FZP .. things might have changed since i was there .. but i doubt it Smile

For a 111 point check you dont remove anything .. its a visual check so i would look at the front part of the condensors through the PU .. if leaking then its a fail.

Mechanics get 1.5 hours for the check .. they are on bonus .. hmm .. so a little bit quicker methinks Very Happy

A condensor of any make when painted black will look like any other make .

Ok .. problem .. you fit aftermarket condensors .. you get a warrenty .. they leak Porsche do a warrenty job and when all appart see they are not Porsche .. you dont get warrenty at that point .

They could if they really wanted to argue that any point of the a/c system failing was down to the condensors being non porsche if they found out ( by removeing the PU ) .

The reality is its unlikely .. but it is possible and then its for the courts to decide .


@ zagonda .. i know them well ! you might need shortened bolts for the pipe connections .. remove the old bolts and test fit them to the new condensors just to be safe before winding them in on the car with the pipes on .

The plastic panel that goes around it .. dont bust a gut trying to fit it .. if its tight against the radiator then dont fit it .. better to leave it off than damage your rads .
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mate. As always a stellar response. Muchly appreciated
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome advice as usual worship worship Thanks. Thumb

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes a post like this for me to think about it and realise the things i just do out of habbit that might be usefull ..

This is also probably teaching you all to suck eggs but i thought id mention a few things ..

The black plastic bracket / condensor surround ive mentioned .. they dont fit well on these condensors ..

Always use new O ring seals .. they swell up with contact with PAG oil and make a good seal .. the old ones will already be swollen so might not seal .

Smear a bit of pag oil on the new O rings then fit them .. if no oil then up end the old condensor .. some should come out .

use grips / pliers to support the condensor when doing up the pipe bolts .. the condensors are pretty weak .. best to have something to counter the force of the ratchet / socket and not damage the condensor .

If the system is empty or has been left open to atmosphere then fit a new dryer .. it will help in the long term .

i would add 15 grams oil per condensor after new ones are fitted .. the offical line is approx 20 per .. under filled is far better than over filled and any regass in the past and they probably added a bit of oil so this would counter that .


Over filled oil .. thats bad .. thats very bad .. compressor will hydraulic lock .. did i say that was bad !
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: New AC Condensers Reply with quote

Ishay wrote:


I had a look around online and found a chap with a business called Mr Cool in Derby who specialises in air conditioning, and more to the point in AC for Porsches (having a dedicated page on his site about them built my confidence). Such is his expertise and confidence that he quoted a fixed price £350 including aftermarket condensers, dryer and ancillaries. He would do OEM for a little more. He knew it would take 2.5 hours (if the bolts didn't need drilling, which they didn't) and that's exactly what it took.

He does it from home. I think he's mostly a mobile guy going to the region's garages to fix AC when they are prepping a car. He seems a very sound, trustworthy guy and I'd highly recommend him if you have AC issues and don't want to pay OPC or even specialist mechanics who may not do AC day-in day-out.


I have used this guy a few times since I found him, if you go to him for a re-gas I think it is only £25-30. I usually would fit all my own parts so can't comment on his workmanship but for a re-gas he's spot on.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dryer ordered, got the sealing rings. will the aircon re gas put the oil in ??
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zagonda wrote:
Dryer ordered, got the sealing rings. will the aircon re gas put the oil in ??


Yes should all be part of the cost, ask them for the read out of what they take out and put back in (If they run it on a proper diagnostic filler).
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zagonda wrote:
Dryer ordered, got the sealing rings. will the aircon re gas put the oil in ??


The system will be empty so no oil will be removed on a regass but you need to tell them you have fitted new condensors so they can add oil ( and dye ).

Basically every component in the A/C system has oil in it so if you change a part you really should replace what you loose .

The entire amount of oil is 195 Mls which is spread around the system ...

If anyone ever fits a compressor .. it comes with the entire amount of oil in it for the system .. you drain it out , you drain out the old compressor , measure the amount then fill the new one with the same amount .

Failure to do this will mean it self destructs !
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kool, Thank you thumbsup thumbsup

ps. where is the dryer located please ?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zagonda wrote:
Kool, Thank you thumbsup thumbsup

ps. where is the dryer located please ?
TIA.


As per image .. left side of battery Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, great advise and help. Thank you. Thumb
 
  
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