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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I cannot really launch hard from 1st gear, to much loss of traction, whats the point ?,,,,,have to get it moving, into 2nd and give it the beans,


I think first gear launches puts a fair bit of stress on the car too but if you are running at VMAX you will need to half a decent launch but I agree second gear pulls are easier Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car looks amazing in triple black. I wouldn't change a thing mate and you defo made the right choice skipping the 991 t. You wait till you run her on race fuel. Night and day difference again - I couldn't believe the difference over the standard 650bhp on Vpower. Its more like 800bhp at the crank on MS109 race fuel and the 0-300kph times back this up maybe even a bit more than that to be honest Grin

Ken, out ion interest don't GT2 VTGS have green tags not blue tags mate? Just hearsay from someone I know well who buys and sells VTGS.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Car looks amazing in triple black. I wouldn't change a thing mate and you defo made the right choice skipping the 991 t. You wait till you run her on race fuel. Night and day difference again - I couldn't believe the difference over the standard 650bhp on Vpower. Its more like 800bhp at the crank on MS109 race fuel and the 0-300kph times back this up maybe even a bit more than that to be honest Grin

Ken, out ion interest don't GT2 VTGS have green tags not blue tags mate? Just hearsay from someone I know well who buys and sells VTGS.
the tag colour makes no difference - actually there is a major problem at the moment as BW are now refusing to sell these outside of Porsche - trying to find a solution as have another one to do at the moment as well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much, I am looking forward to testing it with race fuel... And maybe the black wheels will grow on me too we’ll see Smile

Can you confirm what 0-60 times you get on your car and is that with or without MS109? I am guessing it won’t make too much difference given traction (and skill in my case) is probably the limiting factor.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tom, I think your Wagner are at least equal to the DO88, we had loads of heat soak at VMAX due the but ques so it's not really a proper test


That is reassuring Rick. Hopefully we will see an improvement next time.
I don’t have experience of the Wagner ones but on the one run imi did before his excursion despite queuing we only saw 55c at 215 which is incredible.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I cannot really launch hard from 1st gear, to much loss of traction, whats the point ?,,,,,have to get it moving, into 2nd and give it the beans,


I think first gear launches puts a fair bit of stress on the car too but if you are running at VMAX you will need to half a decent launch but I agree second gear pulls are easier Smile
Thanks for the kind review - really unnecessary but always appreciate it Thumb

Personally I don’t like launching cars - why bother when all you end up doing is potentially adding stress - when we started Vmax events before they became official none of us did this. Trouble is when you line up there is always that temptation too.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pleasure and sorry it took me over 2 1/2 years Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks so much, I am looking forward to testing it with race fuel... And maybe the black wheels will grow on me too we’ll see Smile

Can you confirm what 0-60 times you get on your car and is that with or without MS109? I am guessing it won’t make too much difference given traction (and skill in my case) is probably the limiting factor.


Yes 3.1 secs on MS109 but I don't think the race fuel makes a tangible difference to the 0-60.

Oz is 2.9 secs and over and above us he has catless and inconel headers.

Only difference between you and me is EP1 vs EP2 and in reality there's virtually no difference between those two exhausts. In fact Stef can easily convert yours to EP2 I bet but a bit more bassy. He prefers the EP1 himself I think but with GT2 turbos there is no drone in my view. Again I wouldn't bother here. Ken feels it holds power back a bit but I think thats a good thing with our kits especially on race fuel map which is crazy! You'll out run a Mac 720 S at events.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely write up and great to hear how happy you are with it thumbsup

The spec sounds incredible worship

Though your endorsement of the D088 intercoolers (including the pipe work and mounts too by the looks of it?) have no doubt just cost me a few £k by going on my next upgrade list Damn Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996ttalot wrote:
911tom wrote:
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Tom, I think your Wagner are at least equal to the DO88, we had loads of heat soak at VMAX due the but ques so it's not really a proper test


That is reassuring Rick. Hopefully we will see an improvement next time.
I don’t have experience of the Wagner ones but on the one run imi did before his excursion despite queuing we only saw 55c at 215 which is incredible.


Yea 55C is very good, we will see later on Tom's as i need more data, but on other platforms like the RS4 they smash the competition. I feel your pain regarding the supply issue too...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMI A wrote:
Yes 3.1 secs on MS109 but I don't think the race fuel makes a tangible difference to the 0-60.


You'll have to give me some pointers on how to archive that Smile

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Lovely write up and great to hear how happy you are with it thumbsup

The spec sounds incredible worship

Though your endorsement of the D088 intercoolers (including the pipe work and mounts too by the looks of it?) have no doubt just cost me a few £k by going on my next upgrade list Damn Grin


Thanks mate, same thing happened to me seeing the various other threads and talking to other 9e28 owners Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
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Yes 3.1 secs on MS109 but I don't think the race fuel makes a tangible difference to the 0-60.


You'll have to give me some pointers on how to archive that Smile



I'm happy to do this but you know I've blown up a sachs 890nm and rear draft sheared off around the bolts doing these hard launches! JZM said they'd never seen a rear drive shaft do this on a 997 turbo. My view was that I know she's making good power. The car had done about 85000 miles and 30,000 miles with maybe 150 VMAX runs under her belt. I'd also stuck her on a dyno at Litchfield just before the drive shaft and clutch let go. There's a serious amount of power on the race fuel map.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. My view was that I know she's making good power. The car had done about 85000 miles and 30,000 miles with maybe 150 VMAX runs under her belt. I'd also stuck her on a dyno at Litchfield just before the drive shaft and clutch let go. There's a serious amount of power on the race fuel map.


Thanks IMIA, this is exactly the type of reliability and usability I was after with this upgrade.

I know Richard drives his 9e28 to the Ring and SPA twice a year and has no problem running with 650S's and other similar cars on pump fuel and has had no mechanical issues. Mezger engine Thumb
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Love the car, love the mods, looks awesome, does look very similar to mine now. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is something quite special about 911 Turbo's. Already an amazing car and you turn it up a notch. Can't imagine what that's like. Job well done here guys.
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Love the car, love the mods, looks awesome, does look very similar to mine now. Thumb


Cheers buddy it is getting there Smile Just waiting for your CF seats food food
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There is something quite special about 911 Turbo's. Already an amazing car and you turn it up a notch. Can't imagine what that's like. Job well done here guys.


Thumb I'll report back next month when I have had a chance to run it on race fuel.
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thumbsup ak,

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Thanks to 9e for the pics Smile

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