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benbuhagiar
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 28 Dec 2014
Posts: 332
Location: Kent
2008 Porsche 997 Carrera 2
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 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:04 am Post subject: Wanted - 997
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Hi all
On the look out for a 997, if you are thinking of selling yours, then please get in touch. Would prefer a 997.2 PDK but will also consider a 997.1 manual with an engine rebuild.
Ideally an interesting colour - Black cars need not apply.
Open to coupe or cabriolet.
I am in Tunbridge-Wells, Kent but will travel for the right car.
Thanks
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max_b
Silverstone
Joined: 09 May 2010
Posts: 126
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Hi
What sort of budget are you working to?
Max
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benbuhagiar
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 28 Dec 2014
Posts: 332
Location: Kent
2008 Porsche 997 Carrera 2
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:04 am Post subject:
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Sorry missed that information out. Between £25-£35k depending on age and miles, etc.
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p0jy
Newbie
Joined: 28 Apr 2018
Posts: 14
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I'm in a similar boat
Theres a nice 58 plate grey one on autotrader for £27,500. I'm not ready to buy yet but thought I would mention that one.
Theres also a nice Black C4S on Pistonheads with a C4S number plate thats had a Hartech rebuild.
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benbuhagiar
Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 28 Dec 2014
Posts: 332
Location: Kent
2008 Porsche 997 Carrera 2
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:01 pm Post subject:
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Good cars tend to move quickly. I'm checking everyday for a car that matches my spec.
Why so many Black cars? 
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copperband
Trainee
Joined: 08 May 2012
Posts: 84
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Hi, Is your max budget £35K?
I have a very "un black" 997.2 C2S in GT Silver with cherry red interior that I'm considering selling. It's done 37k 58 Plate MY09.
It would need another £10k adding to your max budget though...
I'm selling to buy a turbo
Cheers,
Ed
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T8
General
Joined: 29 Jun 2010
Posts: 15267
Location: Kent
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| copperband wrote: | Hi, Is your max budget £35K?
I have a very "un black" 997.2 C2S in GT Silver with cherry red interior that I'm considering selling. It's done 37k 58 Plate MY09.
It would need another £10k adding to your max budget though...
I'm selling to buy a turbo
Cheers,
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jfyi Ben's bought a car. p0jy might still be looking.
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spongebob squarepants
Shanghai
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 4969
Location: Manchester and Iraq
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OP bear in mind when you search 911’s suddenly aren’t selling, I’m not sure there moving fast anymore? Or could just be in the lower price bracket? also I’d be very careful about owners valuations on here, often private valuations are actually closer to OPC prices.
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Benjs
Montreal
Joined: 03 May 2015
Posts: 541
Location: Worcester
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May be in the change market soon
2010 3.6pdk in aqua
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copperband
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Joined: 08 May 2012
Posts: 84
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| spongebob squarepants wrote: | | OP bear in mind when you search 911’s suddenly aren’t selling, I’m not sure there moving fast anymore? Or could just be in the lower price bracket? also I’d be very careful about owners valuations on here, often private valuations are actually closer to OPC prices. |
I’d also be careful at OPC prices, plenty of variation on very similar spec cars.
Spongebob - are you saying you think 997.2’s are falling in price?
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spongebob squarepants
Shanghai
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
Posts: 4969
Location: Manchester and Iraq
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| copperband wrote: | | spongebob squarepants wrote: | | OP bear in mind when you search 911’s suddenly aren’t selling, I’m not sure there moving fast anymore? Or could just be in the lower price bracket? also I’d be very careful about owners valuations on here, often private valuations are actually closer to OPC prices. |
I’d also be careful at OPC prices, plenty of variation on very similar spec cars.
Spongebob - are you saying you think 997.2’s are falling in price? |
Yes they definitely are, using my yardstick (Colini) 997 GTS prices are finally falling, theres plenty sitting and not selling due to their overinflated prices, OPC's certainly are starting to reduce them 2-4k to sell them.
Ive been looking at 2 mint low milers circa 67 k that six months ago would of been up for 75k, and there still not selling, ive never seen OPC's so keen to sell, however the px price on my mint C4S was ridicously low, the salesman stating the price he would put mine up for on the forecourt which again was 5k less than 6 months ago 
Clear evidence here http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=127091 car was 70k when I started that thread, today 66,500.
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EX 997.2 Carrera 4S PDK
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Phil 997
Le Mans
Joined: 05 Dec 2015
Posts: 15157
Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:44 am Post subject:
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I must admit its not unusual to see gen2 C2S ave miles in the high 30k's a C4S will be over 40k as always spec and condition play a part in the variation in price , Ben the OP picked up a lovely Aqua gen2 PDK 3.6 with ave miles for the year 
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easternjets
Kyalami
Joined: 29 Apr 2016
Posts: 1919
Location: Darlington
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Spoke to a few well know dealers in the last week or two and one in particular says they are 25% down on sales from this time last year. He also said that to get a sale they have to be very flexible on their pricing.
Cars just a'int selling like they used to so if your in the market to buy looks like the time is right.
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Iwantone
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Joined: 22 May 2016
Posts: 58
Location: Oxon
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As mentioned above there are quite a few GTSs that aren't shifting so slowly coming down in price.
From what I have seen 997.2 prices are pretty much holding up but they are taking longer to sell. Also, I think there are the odd bargains available.
I inquired about a GTS convertible and was offered £34k PX for my 2009 C4S with 65k miles. I bought it private for £37k 2 years ago.
I suspect due to the current climate of uncertainty people are holding off of big purchases.
I am very tempted with a 2011 GTS but find it hard to justify the £25k+ expenditure...
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mikeluke
Albert Park
Joined: 03 Jun 2014
Posts: 1739
Location: Hampshire
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I'll not name names but a friend of mine in the trade told me that one small but well-respected INDY has sold a grand total of 3 cars so far this year....
Certain stuff is selling but generally trade appears slow - I have first hand experience of that - trying to sell my current car....taking longer than I had anticipated for sure
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Phil 997
Le Mans
Joined: 05 Dec 2015
Posts: 15157
Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
2009 Porsche 997 Carrera 4S
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I dont think close to £1.50 a ltr for v max helps thirsty engine sales and the continues uncertainty of whats happening over leaving the EU and how it will affect jobs, trade etc. lower than expected GDP . All major purchase sales inc houses are sluggish at the moment . Whats interesting is now we are all much better informed of the signs of slowing markets ,we as people react tightening spending far quicker then in the past so the trend hits the high street much quicker than say 10 yrs ago . The good news is we are also well informed when confidence returns and start spending quicker again so the recovery is faster . A good qtr GDP and those morons in power pulling their fingers out over the EU and it will recover very quickly .
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easternjets
Kyalami
Joined: 29 Apr 2016
Posts: 1919
Location: Darlington
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but 997.2 prices are not holding up so well at all. As Phil says it's all this uncertainty around this ruddy Breaksit which seems to be a swirling mass of confusion, drop into that the stock market taking a bit of a hammering recently with all the Trade wars that a certain person is stirring up and people are just not splashing out on expensive motors.
Car sales in general are well down year on year.
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copperband
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| easternjets wrote: | | Car sales in general are well down year on year. |
You’re spot on with that point. The overall uncertainty created by Brexit, lack of consumer confidence has affected just about everything from the things in the supermarket shelves through to cars.
I don’t think it’s specific to any particular models. Certainly, as a brand Porsche are seen as a luxury proposition and potential good investment. The latter point has encouraged people to take their money from the bank and transfer it to a car where gains are more likely and tax free.
Cars like the 997.2 are not seen as investments per se (unless something very unusual) but for people like me they are a good place to put some money that has seen the majority of its depreciation and is flat on value.
In a flat market or even one declining very slightly, it’s a good place to “trade up”. Trading down or out altogether will inevitably result in losing money.
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easternjets
Kyalami
Joined: 29 Apr 2016
Posts: 1919
Location: Darlington
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When you see your ISA sitting in a bank getting max 1.5% it's not a difficult decision to make on a £100k investment, do I wait for my £1500 each year or buy a 911 and enjoy myself 
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mikeluke
Albert Park
Joined: 03 Jun 2014
Posts: 1739
Location: Hampshire
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:57 pm Post subject:
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Cash ISA = yes - stocks and shares ISA = much better than that!
Last time I checked, we were getting mid teens % on our S&S ISAs
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Current:
981 Boxster S PDK
BMW X5 4.0d M Sport
BMW M140i (Mrs L's)
VW Polo Match 1.2 (the lad's)
Former:
996 Turbo S Cabrio Manual
996 Turbo Coupe Tip
968 Cabrio Manual
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