What's wrong with this C4S?

Fastlane · 23 Apr 2018

This has been for sale for a few weeks now and started off above £20k and is now down to £16250, which seems a complete bargain if genuine for a 2004 47.5k mile manual C4S convertible (which must be £10k more at a dealer?) Admittedly it looks like it needs a good clean. Anybody talked to the owner?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...a-996/porsche-911-996-carrera-4s-2004/8531918

Jackzi · 23 Apr 2018

I decided to bite and enquire.

It's a Cat D. I've asked if there's any documentary proof as to what happened, so we'll see what that was exactly.

It also seems like some of the servicing was done by the owner himself.

Jake911 · 23 Apr 2018

Jackzi said:
I decided to bite and enquire.

It's a Cat D. I've asked if there's any documentary proof as to what happened, so we'll see what that was exactly.

It also seems like some of the servicing was done by the owner himself.

My gut instinct is that if the car isn't well maintained in the inside then typically it isn't maintained at all. Coupled with servicing 'done by the owner' that translates to: RISK. Personally I would run away.........

Jake911 · 23 Apr 2018

Ha !

I have just looked at the advert............

1.absolutely stunning example
2.this has got to be one of the best examples anywhere.

Seriously :?:

That engine bay alone speaks volumes.

Maybe I am hyper critical but there is a very good reason why that car is not selling

:bandit:

rdodger · 23 Apr 2018

If the seller can't even be bothered to clean and hoover it what else have they not bothered to do?

Jackzi · 23 Apr 2018

I thought I'd ask as it costs nothing to inquire.

But you're right about the interior. How hard can it be to give it a good clean? Especially if you're about to try and sell it.

:dont know:

Kingb4 · 23 Apr 2018

Jackzi said:
I decided to bite and enquire.

It's a Cat D. I've asked if there's any documentary proof as to what happened, so we'll see what that was exactly.

It also seems like some of the servicing was done by the owner himself.

I might be wrong, but thought it was a legal requirement to state on an advert if its a Cat D ?

deMort · 23 Apr 2018

looks to me like the brake pad warning light is on :dont know:

I wouldn,t buy a Cat D motorbike let alone a Porsche .

segart · 23 Apr 2018

The engine bay is filthy and the shut lines inside the engine lid haven't seen a wipe over in years. It baffles me that someone would advertise a car without giving it even a casual wipe over and Hoover. It puts a question mark over the entire project.
Rick

wasz · 23 Apr 2018

These are the kind of cars I like to find.

The owner clearly doesn't know how to sell a car.

Its mis-described, its filthy.

Theres a question mark over the Cat-D - something people just don't understand and are scared of.

The car might be a dog and 99% of people will think so.

Nobody rings up so the price tumbles.

But maybe, just maybe it is mechanically perfect. Maybe the owner is an eccentric engineer type who just doesn't care about looks.

The evidence might be in a stacked ring binder he has never got round to sorting out.

Cleaning a car is a dead easy way to add value. A bit like decorating a house.

HSC911 · 23 Apr 2018

:yeah:

foz001 · 24 Apr 2018

The history of the repair is the key, if it was a cat D when 16 weeks old is very different to a cat D at 16 years old!

The small things that write off cars can be remarkable!

Robertb · 24 Apr 2018

wasz said:
These are the kind of cars I like to find.

The owner clearly doesn't know how to sell a car.

Its mis-described, its filthy.

Theres a question mark over the Cat-D - something people just don't understand and are scared of.

The car might be a dog and 99% of people will think so.

Nobody rings up so the price tumbles.

But maybe, just maybe it is mechanically perfect. Maybe the owner is an eccentric engineer type who just doesn't care about looks.

The evidence might be in a stacked ring binder he has never got round to sorting out.

Cleaning a car is a dead easy way to add value. A bit like decorating a house.

Often good to see a car 'warts and all' rather than beautified by a dealer. That said, whilst a full detail is beyond many, I can't see why on earth as a private seller you would not at least give a car a wash and hoover before posting up photos as because he is lazy it has put doubt in peoples minds and it has cost him money.

A chef might do great food, but if you walk in to the restaurant and the place is a dirty tip it is not encouraging.

FRZ 911 · 24 Apr 2018

Kingb4 said:
Jackzi said:

I decided to bite and enquire.

It's a Cat D. I've asked if there's any documentary proof as to what happened, so we'll see what that was exactly.

It also seems like some of the servicing was done by the owner himself.

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I might be wrong, but thought it was a legal requirement to state on an advert if its a Cat D ?

You could be right - it appears the advert has been 'rejected' by PH. :?:

Fastlane · 24 Apr 2018

FRZ 911 said:
You could be right - it appears the advert has been 'rejected' by PH. :?:

Someone must have reported it and quite rightly so.

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