Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:17 pm Post subject: 996 Turbo wanted - cash waiting
I am currently on the hunt for either a 996 or 997 Turbo.
Cash waiting for the right car - I am viewing cars this week and would like to purchase fairly soon.
If anyone has or knows of either of the above for sale please contact me.
Criteria needs to be....
No lairy interior colours - Black interior, or would consider metropole blue.
Max 60k mileage
Service history must be complete with no huge gaps.
Must be manual _________________ Ex 996C4S, manual, Polar Silver - Gone to the dogs!
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cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3738
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:42 am Post subject:
Ask a few specialists to give you the nod when a car matching your wants is about to come in.
Trawl the ads on Piston Heads as well as this site.
Look at cars for sale at the Porsche Club GB site. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
mikeluke Barcelona
Joined: 03 Jun 2014 Posts: 1318 Location: Hampshire
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:53 am Post subject:
Agree - it might be worthwhile calling your local Porsche indy and putting the word out - you might find that they know of a car out there that is looking for a home or they might have been offered one in Part Ex for something they have in stock _________________ Current:
981 Boxster S PDK
BMW X5 4.0d M Sport
VW Polo Match 1.2 2011 (the lad's)
Former:
996 Turbo S Cabrio Manual
996 Turbo Coupe Tip
968 Cabrio Manual
cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3738
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:19 pm Post subject:
Don't discount indys who just do servicing. They may know a customer's car that has asked them to put feelers out that they are looking to sell but in no rush. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
mark pearce Approved Trader
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 2709 Location: Nationwide
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:49 pm Post subject:
What about Chandra’s car Cheshire911? _________________ Stirlings The Low Mileage Porsche Specialists mark@stirlings.co.uk
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BChivs Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 02 Aug 2017 Posts: 327
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:38 pm Post subject:
cheshire911 wrote:
Ask a few specialists to give you the nod when a car matching your wants is about to come in.
Trawl the ads on Piston Heads as well as this site.
Look at cars for sale at the Porsche Club GB site.
Tried all that mate....I. check Pistonheads, Autotrader, carandclassic, PCGB, and eBay most evenings for updates. Have a stock heads up with Harbour, 911V, Nine Excellence, and Ashgood.
I test drove a 997.2 C2S at Ashgood Cars a5 the weekend which I didn’t think was for me...a bit smooth, and quiet and for me no real drama....felt I blended into the traffic on the drive.
I viewed the 996C4S at JR Motor Company....I do still love these, but it wasn’t as tidy as I had hoped.
I think I would buy another C4S but I think now it would need to be ultra mint or Hartech rebuilt.
I am looking at a few cars this weekend again....A forum members 997T, the 997T at Autostore and a 996T at nine excellence. I am compromising on some of the main criteria, for example the nine excellence car is higher mileage than I’d like an£ had a fair few owners but seems pretty sorted and with a decent after sales back up. _________________ Ex 996C4S, manual, Polar Silver - Gone to the dogs!
cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3738
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:55 am Post subject:
mark pearce wrote:
What about Chandra’s car Cheshire911?
Its a tiptronic. The OP states it must be a manual.
But yes, if he had not stipulated that, Chandra's car would have been my highest recommendation with only 33k miles and very well kept. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
goodatcrashing Newbie
Joined: 09 Nov 2014 Posts: 9
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:44 pm Post subject:
Hi,
My 996 Turbo, manual, silver, black interior is up for sale if you're interested for £38K:
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BChivs Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 02 Aug 2017 Posts: 327
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:40 pm Post subject:
So I looked at a 997T today, which for the asking price was pretty poor cond....had a lot going for it. Manual, decent mileage, rare colour(cobalt)...bodywork wasn’t too bad, but the interior was shagged! Not just normal wear and tear commensurate with age, but badly treated and beyond repair without some serious expenditure. Not for me.
To be honest I was a bit dissapoijntrd with the dealer....no test drives? Who in their right mind buys a £50k odd grand car without even driving it! Well obviously quite a few it seems, but a deal breaker for me.
Additionally to this it didn’t give me the same draw as a 996. I think I am going to concentrate my search specifically to a 996T Manual. I’ve spent the last 2-3 weeks seriously considering other models including a 996C4S, a 997.2, and 997T, but the 996T is what Ive made up my mind I want.
So, if anyone has a 996t they are looking to move on or knows of any not yet advertised please let me know. I have a suitable cash amount sat waiting.
Out of interests, does anyone know what the X50 pack would add value wise? _________________ Ex 996C4S, manual, Polar Silver - Gone to the dogs!
Out of interests, does anyone know what the X50 pack would add value wise?
When i was looking six years back it was about 5k. Values have increased dramatically since then so I would expect the gap to be a little larger. Imo totally worth it but pointless if you plan on modifying to the point of changing turbos.
FYI - It was quite a rare option at a premium of 11k when new
Good luck on the search _________________ Toy: 2002 996 X50 Turbo
Daily: 2004 E46 M3
Track: 1993 Mazda MX5 Supercharged
angry Montreal
Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 573 Location: East sussex
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:05 am Post subject:
BChivs wrote:
So I looked at a 997T today, which for the asking price was pretty poor cond....had a lot going for it. Manual, decent mileage, rare colour(cobalt)...bodywork wasn’t too bad, but the interior was shagged! Not just normal wear and tear commensurate with age, but badly treated and beyond repair without some serious expenditure. Not for me.
To be honest I was a bit dissapoijntrd with the dealer....no test drives? Who in their right mind buys a £50k odd grand car without even driving it! Well obviously quite a few it seems, but a deal breaker for me.
Additionally to this it didn’t give me the same draw as a 996. I think I am going to concentrate my search specifically to a 996T Manual. I’ve spent the last 2-3 weeks seriously considering other models including a 996C4S, a 997.2, and 997T, but the 996T is what Ive made up my mind I want.
So, if anyone has a 996t they are looking to move on or knows of any not yet advertised please let me know. I have a suitable cash amount sat waiting.
Out of interests, does anyone know what the X50 pack would add value wise?
You have PM. _________________ 996 Turbo Previous
993 C2.
cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3738
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:20 am Post subject:
BChivs wrote:
So I looked at a 997T today, which for the asking price was pretty poor cond....had a lot going for it. Manual, decent mileage, rare colour(cobalt)...bodywork wasn’t too bad, but the interior was shagged! Not just normal wear and tear commensurate with age, but badly treated and beyond repair without some serious expenditure. Not for me.
To be honest I was a bit dissapoijntrd with the dealer....no test drives? Who in their right mind buys a £50k odd grand car without even driving it! Well obviously quite a few it seems, but a deal breaker for me.
Additionally to this it didn’t give me the same draw as a 996. I think I am going to concentrate my search specifically to a 996T Manual. I’ve spent the last 2-3 weeks seriously considering other models including a 996C4S, a 997.2, and 997T, but the 996T is what Ive made up my mind I want.
So, if anyone has a 996t they are looking to move on or knows of any not yet advertised please let me know. I have a suitable cash amount sat waiting.
Out of interests, does anyone know what the X50 pack would add value wise?
You probably saw a "typical" example according to my local indy who sees a lot of shagged examples and if I pop around for a coffee, shows me on a ramp what a shagged example looks like!
It is always good to have focus - and this is better if you have decided to go for a 996 Turbo and eliminated 997 Turbo. I know of a very good example with 33k miles that has been maintained regardless of cost by a very good specialist indy. It has just had a set of new discs and pads all round last week. The rads and condensors have been replaced not so long ago. The only gripe (for you) is that its a tiptronic where you want a manual.
If you are prepared to move on this requirement, I am happy to introduce you to the seller (who is in no rush to sell by the way and maintaining the car with whatever it needs along the way until he sells it). Send me a PM and I'll try to introduce you.
A combination of a manual box and an X50 factory upgrade package will be a significant premium for you. The X50 option adds a rarity factor rather than outright power advantage - which someone here will quickly point out can be far greater with a £2k re-map. The X50 adds around 30bhp to the standard 996 turbo's 420bhp. The X50 has a different map, different turbos (larger K24's vs standard K16's) and intercoolers. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
kozzi Nürburgring
Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Posts: 436 Location: suffolk
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:06 pm Post subject:
What does a ‘shagged example’ look like? Thought they would all be looked after??! _________________ I am the beast that feeds the beast
cheshire911 Estoril
Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Posts: 3738
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:02 pm Post subject:
Far from it. Go and talk to a few indys and see some of the examples they see.
Then you'll see what shagged looks like.
That's why I recommend a PPI through someone who knows the marque and the model and knows what to look for. One thing I have gleaned from talking to my local indy and beyond is that you cannot judge these cars shiny side up or from photographs. That's why I never comment or remark on photos of a proposed purchase. _________________ 996 2002 X50 Turbo Manual
"Once bitten; forever smitten"
BChivs Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 02 Aug 2017 Posts: 327
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:01 pm Post subject:
kozzi wrote:
What does a ‘shagged example’ look like? Thought they would all be looked after??!
The example I viewed I’m sure would have been fine mechanically, especially from the supplying dealer who from what I gather have a good rep.....cosmetically though in particular the interior was terrible. Looked like the dog had been chewing at the plastics....dents in the seats, scuffed trim, dents in the dash, shiny heavily worn drivers seat....a scuff on the bumper can be sorted quite easily, bu5 the issues with the interior were more than I think would be sorted in pre sale prep. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure it’s better to have a mechanically sound car but I couldn’t justify a £56k spend sat in a car that looked as if it had been badly treated.
No test drives either? Strange? I’ve never driven a 997t....I might love it and the test drive alone may have been enough for me to decide I wanted it, but I might hate it....too much money to spend on a whim.
I’m very fussy with cars and the condition and whatever I buy needs to be clearly looked after and not just ‘used’. _________________ Ex 996C4S, manual, Polar Silver - Gone to the dogs!
kozzi Nürburgring
Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Posts: 436 Location: suffolk
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:20 pm Post subject:
That is bad form if they didn’t describe it a fubar!! _________________ I am the beast that feeds the beast
vlad Imola
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 799
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject:
Slightly confused by ....
Quote:
No test drives either? Strange? I’ve never driven a 997t....I might love it and the test drive alone may have been enough for me to decide I wanted it, but I might hate it....too much money to spend on a whim.
Yet in another thread (997.1 turbo values?) you mention you prefer the 996 and its more mechanical feel
If you can you should at least test a 997t - so you can make an informed comparison.
(a recent Total 911 did exactly that and compared the 2 turbo models and concluded that if it was their money it would be going on the 7 - for exactly the converse of your point (first is best) - their point being that the 10 intervening years result in a better sorted car).
BChivs Spa-Francorchamps
Joined: 02 Aug 2017 Posts: 327
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:45 pm Post subject:
vlad wrote:
Slightly confused by ....
Quote:
No test drives either? Strange? I’ve never driven a 997t....I might love it and the test drive alone may have been enough for me to decide I wanted it, but I might hate it....too much money to spend on a whim.
Yet in another thread (997.1 turbo values?) you mention you prefer the 996 and its more mechanical feel
If you can you should at least test a 997t - so you can make an informed comparison.
(a recent Total 911 did exactly that and compared the 2 turbo models and concluded that if it was their money it would be going on the 7 - for exactly the converse of your point (first is best) - their point being that the 10 intervening years result in a better sorted car).
Ive owned a 996C4S, Driven a few 996t’s and although havnt driven a 997 ‘turbo’ ive Driven 997 in both gen1 and Gen2 form....I was simply saying budget aside, I prefer the 996 for what I personally want the car to do. The 997 is too modern for me. I want a weekend car that has a bit of a ‘modern classic’ feel. When I’m looking at 997s it doesn’t do anything for me, whereas a 996 does. Everyone’s tastes different. _________________ Ex 996C4S, manual, Polar Silver - Gone to the dogs!
Goldstar Newbie
Joined: 10 Sep 2017 Posts: 39
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:23 pm Post subject:
Strange that a dealer would offer a car for sale with an interior in a state. Makes you wonder what else was mistreated if POs have not looked after the bit they spend their time in. Could it be that 52k isn't genuine, mine is on 59k and apart from the very slightest of wear in the driver's bolster, it's immaculate.
Just goes to show what Mistercorn (I think it was) said about assessing these cars by focussing on the shiny bits-its not always the place to be looking.
Good luck with the search, it looks like a good 996 has just been posted for sale by the way.
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