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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I ask £55k for my GT silver 2006 997.1TT with 42400k miles manual then?
Believe it or not all of the previous owners actually serviced it!!!!


You can ask what you like. Floor

Seriously, I'd say yes. There's only 4 manual cars on AutoTrader currently under £60k. All 4 are c£55k, all have done more miles than yours. The good history will count for a lot.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I ask £55k for my GT silver 2006 997.1TT with 42400k miles manual then?
Believe it or not all of the previous owners actually serviced it!!!!


You can ask what you like. Floor

Seriously, I'd say yes. There's only 4 manual cars on AutoTrader currently under £60k. All 4 are c£55k, all have done more miles than yours. The good history will count for a lot.


Watch out for it coming on at the start June then! About time it went as don’t use it as have my black one out most of the time.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kozzi wrote:
T8 wrote:
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Can I ask £55k for my GT silver 2006 997.1TT with 42400k miles manual then?
Believe it or not all of the previous owners actually serviced it!!!!


You can ask what you like. Floor

Seriously, I'd say yes. There's only 4 manual cars on AutoTrader currently under £60k. All 4 are c£55k, all have done more miles than yours. The good history will count for a lot.


Watch out for it coming on at the start June then! About time it went as don’t use it as have my black one out most of the time.


Without those mega miles I'd be seriously interested Grin I was really interested in Herman Riviera, however once I mentioned the service history, the dealers quieter than a church mouse Dont know
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kozzi wrote:
Can I ask £55k for my GT silver 2006 997.1TT with 42400k miles manual then?
Believe it or not all of the previous owners actually serviced it!!!!


You can ask what you like. Floor

Seriously, I'd say yes. There's only 4 manual cars on AutoTrader currently under £60k. All 4 are c£55k, all have done more miles than yours. The good history will count for a lot.


Beat me too it.... Very Happy
Even with a ‘discount’ depending on how much interest you get I can’t see why you wouldn’t ask for that and agree to pay for a 111 Check & 1 year Warranty - £1100 and point out to the chap he’s still almost £10k up against a similar car in at the OPC Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject: WHERE WILL THEY STOP Reply with quote

I have seen 997 turbo prices rise over the last 5 years or so.
Heres a question will they ever get near to 993 turbos values????
100k + for normal milages cars, not 10 miles from new on the clock.

I hope so anyway worship worship
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: WHERE WILL THEY STOP Reply with quote

tgdesign wrote:
I have seen 997 turbo prices rise over the last 5 years or so.
Heres a question will they ever get near to 993 turbos values????
100k + for normal milages cars, not 10 miles from new on the clock.

I hope so anyway worship worship


We can only pray for the day, but as I said to me wife when she asked me why should I keep the Lotus ( low usage ).....
We have the space, it doesn’t get in way, it’s lovely to drive when we do get the chance, and it’s value is going up slightly ahead of its running cost ( just ) so why would I sell....
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: WHERE WILL THEY STOP Reply with quote

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..... Heres a question will they ever get near to 993 turbos values????
100k + for normal milages cars ...........



Purely due to the fact that so many were produced they'll never match 993 Turbo values. At some time in the future low mileage but used examples might be worth £100k but when that happens a 993 Turbo will probably be £200k. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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said he fidnt ferl it needed it as he only done 10k in 8 years


Amazing how some people think like that. I had exactly the same when I was looking to buy a Ducati. They need their belts changed every 2 years or 12k miles (if i remember rightly). I found one, bloke said it had only done 3k since belt change. Great. Turned up, transpired that bike had only done 3k over last 8 years and so should have had 4 belt changes in that time. Bloke happily fired her up and revved her etc. I was just waiting for the belts to snap.


Bloke messaged me this morning and completely lost his shizz when I said it’s not for me as it’s not been serviced correctly! Dont know
He’s genuinely blind to it!
Suppose he will find out the hard way when he advertises on the open market and every interested party tells him the same!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: WHERE WILL THEY STOP Reply with quote

T8 wrote:
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..... Heres a question will they ever get near to 993 turbos values????
100k + for normal milages cars ...........



Purely due to the fact that so many were produced they'll never match 993 Turbo values. At some time in the future low mileage but used examples might be worth £100k but when that happens a 993 Turbo will probably be £200k. Wink


Spot-on Terry. Simply too many of them to reach the sort of values that 993 Turbo cars have reached.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an additional point that is worth considering, someone said to me about 4 months ago that Porsche sales crashed in 2008/09, I researched this today they actually dropped by 25% over this period !
So while it’s nothing like the volumes vs 993 I accept that, but it true that the availability of 997’s is less than would expect....
Sadly the excellent ‘how many left’ website doesn’t offer the actual data for Porsche UK cars but in the case of my Lotus it does and there is established statistical relationship between my particular car availability and values Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one reason the 997.2 turbos are more money as there is so few around
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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one reason the 997.2 turbos are more money as there is so few around


Is it not more the fact that they are just newer!? Is there much of a £gap£ between a 997.1 manual Turbo and a PDK/Manual .2 with everything else being equal?

Would be interesting if someone could post the amount of 993/6/7 Turbos sold in the UK if the information is out there somewhere?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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one reason the 997.2 turbos are more money as there is so few around


Is it not more the fact that they are just newer!? Is there much of a £gap£ between a 997.1 manual Turbo and a PDK/Manual .2 with everything else being equal?

Would be interesting if someone could post the amount of 993/6/7 Turbos sold in the UK if the information is out there somewhere?



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would be interesting if someone could post the amount of 993/6/7 Turbos sold in the UK if the information is out there somewhere?



The table above shows production numbers. I don't think you'll find figures for UK registrations.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would be interesting if someone could post the amount of 993/6/7 Turbos sold in the UK if the information is out there somewhere?



The table above shows production numbers. I don't think you'll find figures for UK registrations.


Yes, as per title.

Good indicator as far as rarety goes?
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kozzi wrote:
Can I ask £55k for my GT silver 2006 997.1TT with 42400k miles manual then?
Believe it or not all of the previous owners actually serviced it!!!!


I would think it's worth that all day long. A lot of the cars out there have been there a while so they obviously have something wrong with them that means they are sticking; that isn't necessarily the price.

Someone went to see a blue one, 52000 miles usual dealer description but when he got there the interior was a disaster and there were other things with the car (I can't remember what off the top of my head) and he wasn't allowed to drive it!!!!!!!!

Good cars will sell end of. I'm about to put mine on AT so I'll let you know how i get on. I'm lucky in that I don't have to sell so can be picky about what I accept.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kozzi wrote:
Can I ask £55k for my GT silver 2006 997.1TT with 42400k miles manual then?
Believe it or not all of the previous owners actually serviced it!!!!


I would think it's worth that all day long. A lot of the cars out there have been there a while so they obviously have something wrong with them that means they are sticking; that isn't necessarily the price.

Someone went to see a blue one, 52000 miles usual dealer description but when he got there the interior was a disaster and there were other things with the car (I can't remember what off the top of my head) and he wasn't allowed to drive it!!!!!!!!

Good cars will sell end of. I'm about to put mine on AT so I'll let you know how i get on. I'm lucky in that I don't have to sell so can be picky about what I accept.


I am debating selling mine too at the moment due to an imminent house move. Is Autotrader not full of time wasting shisters or have things changed? I would probably just pop mine on here and PH if I do decide to sell.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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robbiej wrote:
one reason the 997.2 turbos are more money as there is so few around


Is it not more the fact that they are just newer!? Is there much of a £gap£ between a 997.1 manual Turbo and a PDK/Manual .2 with everything else being equal?

Would be interesting if someone could post the amount of 993/6/7 Turbos sold in the UK if the information is out there somewhere?



Here you go....


That is interesting. I guess there is no information regarding transmission type percentages sold?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Scholester wrote:
robbiej wrote:
one reason the 997.2 turbos are more money as there is so few around


Is it not more the fact that they are just newer!? Is there much of a £gap£ between a 997.1 manual Turbo and a PDK/Manual .2 with everything else being equal?

Would be interesting if someone could post the amount of 993/6/7 Turbos sold in the UK if the information is out there somewhere?



Here you go....


That is interesting. I guess there is no information regarding transmission type percentages sold?


Nope, but I'd guess it was about 30% manual v 70% Tip for Gen1 cars. Obviously Gen2 manuals are almost as rare as hens teeth which is a key reason why Gen1 manuals command such a premium over Tip's.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interstingly (unless im missing something!) there were fewer 997.2 Turbos than any other model? This is why I dont understand the reasoning they wont rocket, as they are in fact the rarist model?
Id say a 997.2 is different enough to be a stand alone model and seperate to the 997.1 turbo?

On another note someone commented cars that stick ALWAYS have a problem, never a truer word spoken Thumb

Re: Herman Riveria blue mentioned earlier in the thread, hes mint condition, very low miles, been in a collection etc etc. Heres the BUT and why he hasnt sold hes only had 3 services in 12 years Confused bemused.com but hey ho, thats something that you can never get back obviously, what percentage realistically would we deduct for an incomplete service history??? The mileage all checks out, but an 07 car serviced 2009/2013/2017. May as well make a stupid offer Question
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