Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:38 pm Post subject: Terrible day, Poorly 997 and 10 hours to recover. Help !!
Well not a good day, nice weather nice drive out, then nasty noises and no gears.
It took 10 hours to recover my car, 3 recovery vehicles later and its home at 23:00. The joys of having such a low car, and now not so much fun.
So before it goes in to be fixed, thought I would ask what people think is the issue, and I will report back in when diagnosed
So the symptoms:
Doing 40 mph going into Canterbury, not even opened the taps once and have not since bringing the car out of SORN, nasty noise 10 miles later, metallic / rubbing noise my first thought was like the wheel arch liner or something had fallen on a back wheel, stopped and checked nothing, moved off a little, a bit more noise, checked again, then no forward gears, had reverse for about 3 feet then that went.
Car goes into all gears, no noises, but no drive forward or back, my thoughts are my clutch has broken up, like to know yours
Phil 997 Donnington
Joined: 05 Dec 2015 Posts: 12403 Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
Boba .sorry to hear that mate, does sound from your explanation like clutch or duel mass flywheel , hope its not too serious keep us posted _________________ 911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
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Boba fett Watkins Glen
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2125
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:13 pm Post subject:
Phil 997 wrote:
Boba .sorry to hear that mate, does sound from your explanation like clutch or duel mass flywheel , hope its not too serious keep us posted
Cheers mate, it was a horrible day, 2 recovery vehicles could not get my car on with an array of fetched scaffold boards etc, so two tilt and slides later, then at last a full flat on the ground thingy. Spent 8 hours in Morrisons Cafe, feel numb !!
I think from memory its got a GT2 RS jobbie (720nm I think saw the clutch and it had Sachs Racing written around it) and a single mass flywheel. Its only done under 2k miles, but fitted 2 years ago !!
Scholester Österreich
Joined: 16 Jan 2012 Posts: 968 Location: South West
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:16 pm Post subject:
Phil 997 wrote:
Boba .sorry to hear that mate, does sound from your explanation like clutch or duel mass flywheel , hope its not too serious keep us posted
Yep, my money is on a less than happy clutch.
Hope it gets diagnosed and sorted without too much drama BF. _________________ 997.1 Turbo Coupe, manual, black/black. 29k miles under its belt.
Boba fett Watkins Glen
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2125
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:29 pm Post subject:
Scholester wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
Boba .sorry to hear that mate, does sound from your explanation like clutch or duel mass flywheel , hope its not too serious keep us posted
Yep, my money is on a less than happy clutch.
Hope it gets diagnosed and sorted without too much drama BF.
I hope so mate, however on the plus side, I was so bored so took a few shots not on my drive or workplace!! Towing eye in place to get it off a very very busy road !!
It was getting late, sundown, but even broken the 997 still looks good
apollokre1d Magny-Cours
Joined: 06 Nov 2012 Posts: 2562 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:22 am Post subject:
Sorry to hear that mate, sounds like a terrible day but please keep us posted... on the plus side your car does look awesome 😎 _________________ Black 997 9e Turbo Manual
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The return of Marty Wild Österreich
Joined: 04 Nov 2016 Posts: 922
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:49 am Post subject:
Sorry to hear this, Boba. Getting recovered is a painful and traumatic experience even at the best of times.
Hope it’s all sorted quickly and painlessly. You’ll have to be getting out enjoying the sun in that ‘vert’ of yours! _________________ Life's too short for cr4ppy cars, keep it German!
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Kingb4 Silverstone
Joined: 20 Jan 2018 Posts: 141 Location: Beds/Bucks
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:59 am Post subject:
Boba - sounds a stressful and rubbish day - sorry
As has already been said, on the plus side the car looks great. The towing eye gives it the 'competition look'...... _________________ 2002 996.2 C2 Cabriolet
Palladium Indianapolis
Joined: 01 Nov 2015 Posts: 2474
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:05 am Post subject:
and i suppose if its your clutch after such a short spell, they will shrug and say wear and tear
good luck with this
MisterCorn Zolder
Joined: 08 Jan 2011 Posts: 5753 Location: Nottingham, England
Sorry to hear that. It doesn't sound good. If you lost forward gears first, then reverse afterwards, it sounds more gearbox than clutch to me. Surely if it was the clutch it would affect all gears the same?
MC
Boba fett Watkins Glen
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2125
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:19 am Post subject:
Cheers guys, car got rained on for the first time last night
The car is going to a recognized specialist to fix, if it is anything to do with the clutch or flywheel, then I will be taking matters up with the clowns who fit it.
alex yates Donnington
Joined: 06 Mar 2014 Posts: 12796 Location: The Ribble Valley, Lancashire
Gearbox fault - or possibly the diff. I munched all the sun geard in my diff. Not pleasant. _________________ 2000 Manual 996 C4 Arctic Silver Convertible
Used daily....rain, sun or snow.
KJD Suzuka
Joined: 18 Feb 2015 Posts: 1161 Location: Monmouthshire
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:31 am Post subject:
Good luck with the fix there. _________________ Arctic Silver 997 Manual Carrera 2s
Boba fett Watkins Glen
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2125
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:32 am Post subject:
MisterCorn wrote:
Sorry to hear that. It doesn't sound good. If you lost forward gears first, then reverse afterwards, it sounds more gearbox than clutch to me. Surely if it was the clutch it would affect all gears the same?
MC
Hope not ! a new gearbox will just about make my week !! It was trying to pull forward a little in all gears like when a clutch is really really slipping, take up but not move.
Just want it fixed now
Boba fett Watkins Glen
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2125
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:34 am Post subject:
alex yates wrote:
Gearbox fault - or possibly the diff. I munched all the sun geard in my diff. Not pleasant.
The recovery bloke said this, the diff, but I thought maybe not being 4 wheel drive.
Geezer 911 Newbie
Joined: 14 Aug 2017 Posts: 32
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:55 am Post subject:
Sorry to hear about you experience mate.
Do you think this happened because the car doesn’t get driven daily?
With some of the stories coming up on the forum at the moment it is leading me to think these cars have to be driven every or something happens.
alex yates Donnington
Joined: 06 Mar 2014 Posts: 12796 Location: The Ribble Valley, Lancashire
Mine is a C4. Although your drive to the front has an electro magnetic clutch. Even so, the car can't put any srive to the front wheels if the rars are locked up. If the car would push along the floor in neautral then possibly not the diff. as this is a permanent drive with the wheels. _________________ 2000 Manual 996 C4 Arctic Silver Convertible
Used daily....rain, sun or snow.
ragpicker Paul Ricard
Joined: 14 Apr 2013 Posts: 3431 Location: North East England
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:01 am Post subject:
That sucks butt-holes and no doubt. One way or another its not going to be a cheap fix unless its as simple as a drive shaft falling off.
As others have said, its either clutch or diff..
Interesting fault, let us know what the outcome is _________________ 996 turbo - slightly modified....
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Palladium Indianapolis
Joined: 01 Nov 2015 Posts: 2474
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:02 am Post subject:
in my opinion all roads lead back to the clutch,
gearboxes dont just 'go' unless the fluid drained out of it and you dident realise,
if its the gearbox, its a terrible advert for the marque
Boba fett Watkins Glen
Joined: 14 May 2015 Posts: 2125
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:03 am Post subject:
Geezer 911 wrote:
Sorry to hear about you experience mate.
Do you think this happened because the car doesn’t get driven daily?
With some of the stories coming up on the forum at the moment it is leading me to think these cars have to be driven every or something happens.
Quite possible. Always had little issues bringing it out of SORN, like air con re-gas, square tyres, Rad leak, I have read they like to be used, but I doubt that has anything to do with this failure.
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