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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:10 pm    Post subject: 993 prices Reply with quote

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Old 993 up at +20k nooo to think it seemed expensive at 30 something..

http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/884/993C2CoupeManual/
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overpricing aside when that rather nice Ashgood car is sub 50 bags it appears like you the previous owner didn't have it long. Perhaps it didn't live up to their expectations Dont know
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long since you sold?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time? Disappointed you didn’t manage to squeeze in a scrotum metaphor btw Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albionmuz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time?


I think my ball sac will hit the floor before my chin Thumb

Sponge tried the reminiscent route after trying modern machinery and second time around found it not what he expected.

My guess is this car is already sold and the listing is smoke and mirrors to keep prices buoyant Bandit
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How long since you sold?

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Just over 3 years ago Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
Albionmuz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time?


I think my ball sac will hit the floor before my chin Thumb

Sponge tried the reminiscent route after trying modern machinery and second time around found it not what he expected.

My guess is this car is already sold and the listing is smoke and mirrors to keep prices buoyant Bandit


Tbf I hated that car (although it’s a cracker) so in real world terms that’s appreciated 8k per year...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m ready to sell mine. New top mounts, set of tyres, service at OPC and additional work and fettling via CS Sportscars in the past few days. These are increasingly rare cars to find with provenance and without needing work doing.

If mine goes,it’s an Alfa 4C next. If it doesn’t then I’ll keep on OC3ing in the 993.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 993 prices Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Depressed.com

Old 993 up at +20k nooo to think it seemed expensive at 30 something..

http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/884/993C2CoupeManual/


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I’m ready to sell mine. New top mounts, set of tyres, service at OPC and additional work and fettling via CS Sportscars in the past few days. These are increasingly rare cars to find with provenance and without needing work doing.

If mine goes,it’s an Alfa 4C next. If it doesn’t then I’ll keep on OC3ing in the 993.


have you driven a 4C? i cant fit one that well, look fab though.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
Albionmuz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time?


I think my ball sac will hit the floor before my chin Thumb

Sponge tried the reminiscent route after trying modern machinery and second time around found it not what he expected.

My guess is this car is already sold and the listing is smoke and mirrors to keep prices buoyant Bandit


I’ve put mine back on the road after 18 months in storage and it’s simply sublime, like nothing else you can buy today. As car get more and more and more about tech and less about the “drive” the 993’s are the perfect classic cars, they don’t mind being ignored for long periods of time but are there at the turn of a key to remind you what driving a car is all about.

Interest rates are going nowhere in the medium / long term and classic cars will continue to be a sound place to put loose change, there is still plenty of spare money looking to be put to use. 993 are a relatively cheap, safe and fun place to put those funds without the normal stresses of running an old car. Prices will continue to steadily rise for these, lesson endeth.

Ps you can always tell when there is a fresh wave of price increases to hit a market as Zingari has usually just bailed out at the wrong time Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the red car looks lovely, sure with 911virgin's reputation it will find a home v soon.

thinking of selling mine soonish too, if only to move into some kind of gt3 pending test-drives...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am seeing silly prices right across the air cooled spectrum, a big jump in 12 months, prices that could actually put people off, they are good cars, but not that good, novelties can wear off, and people could end up thinking, Sh-t i could have done with that money, a flood of cars hit the market, and prices drop, its how its happened before, i am not going to play the game, i am seeing other marques with some great value, fun cars, without the silliness.

i will probably never have a 993, its a shame, but i can get over it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 993 thoughts.

Full factory spec cars will be the easiest to shift. But genuine period correct / appropriate added options also ok. A decent Becker or RS bits being a plus.

Full leather esp. in one of the desirable colours (black, red, chestnut etc) will also 'hold their bags' better

And perhaps rather controversial this one, but I can't see wide body premiums over better specced narrow body cars being sustainable.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Albionmuz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time?


I think my ball sac will hit the floor before my chin Thumb

Sponge tried the reminiscent route after trying modern machinery and second time around found it not what he expected.

My guess is this car is already sold and the listing is smoke and mirrors to keep prices buoyant Bandit


Tbf I hated that car (although it’s a cracker) so in real world terms that’s appreciated 8k per year...


And you hated the car because? Or is it that you now hate it because it has increased in value so much since you sold it?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Albionmuz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time?


I think my ball sac will hit the floor before my chin Thumb

Sponge tried the reminiscent route after trying modern machinery and second time around found it not what he expected.

My guess is this car is already sold and the listing is smoke and mirrors to keep prices buoyant Bandit


Tbf I hated that car (although it’s a cracker) so in real world terms that’s appreciated 8k per year...


Thats not your old one unless you bought a 2nd Red one??
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris W wrote:
spongebob squarepants wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Albionmuz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Overpricing aside Dont know


Are you ready for the bounce when it sells in quick time?


I think my ball sac will hit the floor before my chin Thumb

Sponge tried the reminiscent route after trying modern machinery and second time around found it not what he expected.

My guess is this car is already sold and the listing is smoke and mirrors to keep prices buoyant Bandit


Tbf I hated that car (although it’s a cracker) so in real world terms that’s appreciated 8k per year...


Thats not your old one unless you bought a 2nd Red one??


Yep this was the second GR 993, owned for no ore than a few weeks Grin
Stale socks, cramped interior, gears, and hated with a paaasion bys HWMBO to name but a few reasons, although for anyone looking for a 993 this one is lovely Thumb I think I bought it harking back to my silver 993 targa, the targa roof making all the differnce IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:


Ps you can always tell when there is a fresh wave of price increases to hit a market as Zingari has usually just bailed out at the wrong time Grin


Hand Depends on the point you enter the market and what the spread will be, not to forget the bell(end) price curve. But again depends what you want it for and how that 'investment' can evaporate when you run out of driving talent. Hence they are seldom driven and road use is dictated by the local met forecast that affects most owners.

Personally I wouldn't buy one now as they're too hexy for me, I've just retired Cool and there are a few other cars I want to try before I pop off. Luckily I'm not in a place where I need to make a load of dough, or necessarily tie it up in one big lump so keeping the air-cooled in the garage/storage would get in the way despite the fact they look better than they drive. And a turbo bodied 964 will take some beating. It was never considered part of my (balanced) investment portfolio. :roll:Nor have I sampled the aromatic tobacco jonttt must smoke to evoke such emotions. I've asked but apparently it's a mysterious blend of aromatic herbs and spices from an ancient recipe known only to the eunuch's of the Khasbar.

People will still want to experience them and that will dictate prices and can't disagree they're a good investment along with some other classics. Ok I made some dough enjoyed the experience of ownership and turning an average condition car, despite its provenance, into a very good one - the latter bit I enjoyed the most. The new custodian gets a good car and should go on to make a wedge if/when they decide to sell:thumb:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim993 wrote:
My 993 thoughts.

..........

And perhaps rather controversial this one, but I can't see wide body premiums over better specced narrow body cars being sustainable.

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Hand rarity will always dictate desirablility, so a rare version of an already relatively rare car will always command a premium ie the wide body versions. Add to that the fact the 2S and 4S offer the benefit of the wide hips without the massive rear spoiler spoiling the lines ...... . The 4S will always be more desirable than the 2S in RHD form as they are rarer still yet offer desirable upgrades eg full leather and the classic turbo red brakes etc....

For those reason the gap between WB and NB 993’s will only get wider not closer together Bandit
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^^^^^^
I'm not convinced Bandit
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