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Trumper112
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 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:04 pm Post subject: 991.1 GTS Tyre choices
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I have read all the threads I can find. The Porsche UK website for the model says P Zeros, PZero Corsa or Dunlop Sport Max Race are approved tyres. My OPC says I can have any N rated tyres and not void the warranty. There is a Michelin Pilot Sport 4S that IS N rated but not listed on Porsche website.
Historically I prefer Michelin. Any thoughts about wisdom of this? Is the OPC right on the warranty angle?
My current P Zeros are shocking in the wet and generally poor in winter.
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FZP
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:20 pm Post subject:
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This can be OPC dependant in regards to the warranty. It's only a problem when it comes time to renewing the warranty. You do right to want Michelins.....cant fault that reasoning
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DRZ911
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Location: Belfast
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:30 pm Post subject:
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Have a 2014 911.1 C4S.
Even with the 4-wheel drive, always thought the Pirellis were pants in the wet. In the dry they were good up to the point of letting go, then fell off a cliff which resulted in a few bum clenching moments. 
So since 2014, I have been eagerly awaiting some N-rated rubber from Michelin. So yesterday, finally managed to give my car a suitable 4th birthday present - some Michelin PS4S tyres with N0 ratings (245 front and 305 rear). Also renewed my OPC warranty.
Only 2 days of driving, but initial impressions of the Michelins are :-
- slightly noisier than the Pirellis
- limpet-like in the dry
- sure-footed in the wet
So positive first impressions of the Michelins.
A few more days running-in and then I'll be able to see what they feel like when pushed a bit harder. 
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Yamaha R1 and BMW R100RS
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Cameo
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Location: South Coast
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:53 pm Post subject:
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Good to read DRZ911
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G2
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject:
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Agree with FZP that this can be OPC dependant, but well worth getting an email from the OPC in advance in case there are problems when renewing warranty with them
Interested in the thread as I'm considering moving to michelins when mine goes in for mot next month. 3mm fronts so they need doing and the rears are 4.5-5mm so this is likely the best time to change a set of 4 before they get out of step if I only change the fronts. Tyres are 2013 front and 2015 rear so again makes sense to change all 4 
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DRZ911
Barcelona
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:21 am Post subject: Re: 991.1 GTS Tyre choices
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| Trumper112 wrote: | | There is a Michelin Pilot Sport 4S that IS N rated but not listed on Porsche website. |
Yes, the PS4S is N0 rated in the 245 and 305 widths and is approved by Porsche, but just not updated on their main website. OPC rang up Porsche to confirm this fact.
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991 Gen 2 GT3 Racing Yellow
Yamaha R1 and BMW R100RS
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baxster
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:52 am Post subject:
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Ive always favored Michelin.
Will Porsche allow you to order in the tyres and fit them or do you go somewhere else with the centrelocks?
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Trumper112
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Location: Surrey
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:43 am Post subject:
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| baxster wrote: | Ive always favored Michelin.
Will Porsche allow you to order in the tyres and fit them or do you go somewhere else with the centrelocks? |
My OPC will fit supplied tyres. Not letting anybody else near the centrelocks!
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DRZ911
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject:
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Got my PS4S from the OPC. They charged about £150 more than the best online quotation, but I was happy enough with this outcome.
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Paulw968
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Are there any downsides fitting 305 section tyres (in place of the standard 295)? The Michelin 295 is not N0 rated.
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Magic919
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:38 pm Post subject:
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305 will be standard on the GTS or other WB Carrera models. Porsche recommend 11 inch rim for 295 and 11.5 for the 305.
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Longp2
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject:
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| DRZ911 wrote: | | Got my PS4S from the OPC. They charged about £150 more than the best online quotation, but I was happy enough with this outcome. |
Would they not price match?
My OPC matched the cheapest quote I could find - I almost fell off my seat when I asked and they said yes.
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DRZ911
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:18 pm Post subject:
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| Longp2 wrote: | | DRZ911 wrote: | | Got my PS4S from the OPC. They charged about £150 more than the best online quotation, but I was happy enough with this outcome. |
Would they not price match?
My OPC matched the cheapest quote I could find - I almost fell off my seat when I asked and they said yes. |
Unfortunately, no price match, but they gave me £50 off their initial quotation. Reason given for not reducing further was that there is limited availability on these N0 tyres and that was propping up the price. 
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991 Gen 2 GT3 Racing Yellow
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Longp2
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| DRZ911 wrote: | | Longp2 wrote: | | DRZ911 wrote: | | Got my PS4S from the OPC. They charged about £150 more than the best online quotation, but I was happy enough with this outcome. |
Would they not price match?
My OPC matched the cheapest quote I could find - I almost fell off my seat when I asked and they said yes. |
Unfortunately, no price match, but they gave me £50 off their initial quotation. Reason given for not reducing further was that there is limited availability on these N0 tyres and that was propping up the price. |
Not to worry and tbh i’d Pay £150 more than what I paid for the Pirellis to get into a set of PS4S!
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Trumper112
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:14 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for all your comments. Michelin’s to be fitted this Thursday.
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Trumper112
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DRZ911
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| Trumper112 wrote: | | Thanks for all your comments. Michelin’s to be fitted this Thursday. |
How are the new Michelins going?
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991 Gen 2 GT3 Racing Yellow
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G2
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:17 pm Post subject:
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From my OPC “The tyres are Porsche fitment so good for warranty yes, they are N0 rated“. My direct question was “Are they ok for warranty on my 991.1”
Have asked OPC to improve the price before I give them the go ahead to order for fitting next month. They said availability is circa 3 days, but suppliers can differ between OPCs I think.
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Trumper112
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| DRZ911 wrote: | | Trumper112 wrote: | | Thanks for all your comments. Michelin’s to be fitted this Thursday. |
How are the new Michelins going? |
Not really enough miles yet but overriding initial impression is of much tighter turn in. Road trip to Monaco in a week and a half so will get a much better feel for them after that!
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G2
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Trumper, how are your Michelin’s working out? Did they cope ok with the rain around Monaco?
Mine are being fitted tomorrow. Compared them side by side with MPS2 today. Less tread slits on the outer of the PS4 than the PS2 and the rubber is tachier if that makes sense. Db rating is 1db higher on the PS4 and wet rating B vs A on the PS2. Should be perfect for my use.
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