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Sundayjumper
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Federal 595 RS-R ? Reply with quote

Anyone here using these ?

I'm picking up some wheels tonight that have a part worn set fitted at the moment. They seem to get good reviews as budget trackday tyres.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bloody great tyres!!

people seem to turn their noses up at them but loads of grip and they work in the wet/damp too. have been on track on them and for the ££ they are just brilliant.

they are no Pirelli trofeo or Michelin Cup but still good.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah

Stonking tyres for the money. I have a set to go on my new wheels for this spring. Purely road use in my case but I've had them on track cars before and they're fantastic.

They don't need loads of heat in them or anything to work, hence they're a great road and track tyre.

£390 for 4 (2x 285/30/18 & 2x 225/40/1Cool compared to about £800 for Michelins.

Not sure I'd use them daily in ice and floods but that's only because I've never tried. For a summer car though they're superb.
Nice stiff sidewalls too. Great for the rears with our engines being back there. Thumb


ETA - with yours being used check the dates. Any tyre will deteriorate over time and I don't like using any beyond 5 years old.
Earlier batches were known for getting small lines/splits across the tread. This is harmless and caused by the moulding process but is a bit disconcerting the first time you see it.

I never hear of it now though.


 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, I'll give them a chance then. After checking the dates.

NLW73 - every time I see your posts I keep meaning to mention that you're local to me - I'm in Owlsmoor. But I rarely drive my car so you won't have seen me out & about !
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking for some track day tyres for the 944 and found these got great reviews and were also a good price when compared. I just need to get around to buying some.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of these on some 996 17” Twists that I ran as track/road tyres on my 944T.

They’re a decent compromise for most conditions but they don’t deal with st ding water particularly well due to the lack of radial grooves. They also like some heat in them too but like all track tyres expect pressures to rise about 7psi when they’re warm so they will benefit from being bled a little on a spirited run - just remember to inflate them again before your next day out.

I found that when pushed hard on track they did start to go off a little after 20 mins but then again so does the driver so no problem there.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to try these but chickened out as Id probably be using the car over winter.

Another thing is I think there only 6mm from new where most other tyres are 8mm IIRC?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After checking the dates.


2011 rear & 2012 front. And they're bloody noisy too ! Brought the car to work today and I've got a bit of a headache now.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sundayjumper wrote:
Sundayjumper wrote:
After checking the dates.


2011 rear & 2012 front. And they're bloody noisy too ! Brought the car to work today and I've got a bit of a headache now.


Those are a bit old.

Book a trackway and use them up Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Book a trackway and use them up Thumb


Bedford, 4th June. Already booked Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah they'd be going straight in the bin I think. puh
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fantastic tyre. I used Toyo 888s and will never go back. A great wet weather tyre
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're a good value for money track day tyre with a low treadwear rating. I have them on a third set of rims for my other car. They need a little heat but don't go off too quickly, unlike Toyo 888s. They're definitely not fantastic in the wet, but I managed to drive 600km across Sweden in the rain without crashing...

We have also used Yokohama Advan Neova AD08, Nitto NT01 and Kumho v70a, all of which are compromised in the wet. The Yokos probably have the best combination of grip to actual wear. All this being said, these track day tyres don't come in each and every size, so I'd probably run the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2s on the 997.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read that these fit a bit big. Is this the case or will I be fine ordering the same size as the OE tires?

The car is 2002 carrera with 18 wheels (if 2wd vs 4wd makes any difference).

Thanks in advance
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got 225/40/18 & 285/30/18 on 8” & 10” rims and they fit well. I was also very pleased with their performance on track.

FWIW, the old ones went straight in the bin, the new ones are not noisy.
 



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good SJ. Cool

Bjorn - I'm running these on mine now. They are supposedly more like the next width up for any given size and maybe are.
I still went for the proper 225/40 and 285/30 sizes for my 8/10 inch wide 18s.
There's a decent amount of rim protection and they look fine.

Great tyres. I've used them over the years on various track cars. First time I've tried them on a 911 but I'm as impressed as ever. £390 per set compared to maybe £800 for michelins. They only come with about 5mm of tread though.
As mentioned above they aren't meant to be great in rain but I got caught in a monsoon on Friday afternoon and I was fine on the A1. Just be aware of your speed and watch for deep puddles.

They don't seem any noisier than any other tyres I've had on a 911 and they are actually rated at 2db quieter than Michelin Cups.

For a sunny day you or track car I can't see any downside. Thumb



 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunday and Marky,

I appreciate you both sharing your experiences. Any take on how long these will last typically last with regular (non track) use? Trying to gauge whether I am better off spending slightly more to get tires that will last significantly longer (I am not a pro driver so I don't think I will notice a difference in performance Embarassed )

Thanks again!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

watch out for some splitting across the tyre and tread width

they always seem to do this and have been told its fine and how the tyre is bonded.

its like a line goes across the middle of the tyre but not to the edges of the tyres and rim. just keep an eye on the tyres and more likely to happen on the rears of a 911 which is wear the drive load and stresses are.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this was big about 5 or 6 years ago. Apparently sorted since about 2013/14.

You can see exactly where the splits might occur though as there are slight moulding lines across the tread. Never had it happen on any of mine but there's a bit online about it.

Worth keeping an eye on though, as you say. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried these and Michelin sport 4s?

Interested to hear how the two compare against each other tbh. I've run RSR's in the past but never 4S's
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