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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: McLaren 570 Reply with quote

I was invited on a McLaren drive experience at Millbrook yesterday to have a few hours fun in the 570 series.

All I can say is that is one hugely accomplished car. If you are considering a Lambo/R8 type car (i.e. 2 seats and quite 'focused') then I thoroughly recommend having a play in a 570.

We all got to do the slalom course (in a 991 911t first for comparison) 1 mile straight (hit 182 mph), the alpine course, the 2 mile banked circuit (weird taking your hands off the wheel at 95 mph) and finally taken out by a pro.

The only downside is how much unwanted attention the car might get.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cost of the annual warranty puts me off. By all accounts you're wise to have it
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely agree with the OP - 2 friends have McLarens (MP4 12C and a 570GT) and when we have our driving trips and track days over in Europe they are hugely impressive as 'allrounders' - the performance & handling while being so civilised is out of this world. very accomplished indeed - i just need a (huge!) win on the Lotto


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£3k car battery put me off.

Opted for an LP560-4 Spyder instead although the 570s is a great car.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snb993 wrote:
2 friends have McLarens (MP4 12C and a 570GT) and when we have our driving trips and track days over in Europe they are hugely impressive


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snb993 wrote:
Definitely agree with the OP - 2 friends have McLarens (MP4 12C and a 570GT) and when we have our driving trips and track days over in Europe they are hugely impressive as 'allrounders' - the performance & handling while being so civilised is out of this world. very accomplished indeed - i just need a (huge!) win on the Lotto


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Great photo where was it taken?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi thank you. Last year’s trip was mainly around the lakes in Italy. We left the Pininfarina ‘factory’ and headed NW to Susa and picked up the D902 Col d’Iseran on our way Val d’Isere. The photo was at Lac du Chevril. We then went on to Chamonix where we did white water rafting- best EUR41 we had ever spent! Very Happy

The D902 is a fabulous road and one of many (including official hillclimbs) that we had been on Thumb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That layby looks like ir was built for the job. You cant beat the alps in summer for quality roads. I suspect the locals enjoyed your convoy too!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markj113 wrote:
£3k car battery put me off.

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Makes the Porsche rip-off prices seem reasoanble
Is it some sort of special lithium ion racing configuration Question
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a few people that have had McL's and they have all complained of several quality issues.

One guy had a brake light out on his, it required a whole new light unit, no bulb to change. It was on order and didn't arrive for 4 month. Some panels I have seen look like they have been put together by apes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren at RSJ told me that one of his customers was quoted £30,000 to have a gearbox to engine oil seal done, guy who had the car was an engineer so he found out who the manufacturer was and contacted them direct. They refused to sell to him as they're under contract to McLaren.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn’t he give it back to the dealer? Can’t be that many guys in the same situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the gear box oil seal is a known fault, as usual they probably said 'we've never heard of that happening before'. The car wasn't warranted, don't know what the end result was but it makes an IMS failure look cheap!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dealer paid for a replacement and sold the car on if it’s the same guy. Thorney would have fixed it for about £5k, but they couldn’t get the part. Didn’t know he was an RSJ customer. Small world.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the rumours about poor quality are true, is there any particular reason why Question

Surely McLaren with their budget, facilities and processes have the know-how to deliver defect-free and reliable cars? Or is it another 10 years for them to go up this learning curve?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Matt, I was there also yesterday, i was on the AM sesson and also did 182mph on the straight Very Happy... Quote of the day for me though was my instructor asking if I could keep the speed to below 130mph on the ring circuit as i started to edge over 140mph, whoops Very Happy Very Happy

I have to admit, the next step for me is likely to be a Mclaren, the slalom comparism course with the 911 turbo and the 570s was certainly eye opening. The final passenger drive with the pro, OMG, it's like a go kart, i can never see my 911 responding like that on a track, even in a pro's hands...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdeD wrote:
I have to admit, the next step for me is likely to be a Mclaren, the slalom comparism course with the 911 turbo and the 570s was certainly eye opening. The final passenger drive with the pro, OMG, it's like a go kart, i can never see my 911 responding like that on a track, even in a pro's hands...


I loved the way they said "this isn't a comparison" maybe it was a chance to side by side differentiate the two.. or as it's better known - a comparison. I do think they are completely different cars and purposes. The 911t is a super car that does every very well where as the McLaren is very focused on performance.

Talking to one guy who has a GT3 RS (991) and a McLaren 540c and asked him which would go first and he didn't hesitate to say the 540c. Maybe a comparison between a GT3 RS and 570 would have been better.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve driven a few McLarens and on owning my second - a 650s Spyder.


They are far more of an event than a 911, the carbon tub, doors, whole mid engine thing.

Performance wise I’m sure there is not much between a 911 Turbo S and 570s
However in terms of impact and woh factor the mcalren is miles ahead.


When I was a young lad (in the 80s) a 911 turbo was the poster car - to compare with a Lambo and Ferrari- even though its capability has continued to rise it no longer holds that position. Now held by the CGT and 918.

The only 911 Porsche i’d swap my 650s for is a 997.2 GT3 RS, a car that cost about £120k less when new than the 650s, kind of says it all.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hired a 570s for a few days to get some real world experience with a view to purchasing one. It got far more attention and was more of an event than any Porsche, inc gt3 rs. Great experience. Compared to the silly overs of GT3 RS etc they are a bargain.

What ultimately put me off was the running costs (warranty and depreciation) and the niggles with build quality. Ok the one I drove had no doubt had a tough life but there were issues you wouldn't expect to see on a 150k car that's done under 20k miles.

And speaking to owners they seem to be a very hard car to sell. Main dealers arent interested.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've driven a 650 round Spa for a day, and had various test drives in 650's and 570's but as much as I try, I just can't gel with them...

First off the brake feel is awful in them, great on track, but too 'dead' for general road pootling imo.. Then the cabin quality and infotainment systems are just average imo, and finally they just feel a bit too plastic for my liking..

Add in they'll cost 2-3 times what my Porsche costs, for no more real world performance!

Add the other look at me issues, such as would you leave it parked overnight in a city street, and get any sleep? Mind you I'm having the same issues with Ferrari and Lamborghini, so my OCD would mean that it would have to be securely parked..

So perhaps supercars are not for me.. Confused

Mind you, put a deposit down for a new Z4M or whatever it'll be called... lol..
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