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dp400
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies guys. Ive already been to view a car at RSJ and I like the car very much. They have told me for the price they are asking the car will be gone though thoroughly and any issues will be attended to, including painting the front end (stone chips), blowing in a scratch on the rear bumper and refurbing the wheels to get them perfect. However I think the same car were it not at RSJ would be £4k less even after they have done all the work above.

Obviously the 1 year warranty adds value, I guess I need to decide wether to take a chance on a cheaper private purchase, or pay a premium for an RSJ prepped and warrantied car.

Decisions decisions Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: RSJ Reply with quote

My mate bought a 997.2 C4S from them, was really well prepped when he picked it up, a few issues cropped up later on and in fact just after the warranty had ended and they authorised the local OPD to carry out the work with absolutely no hassle. Would highly recommend.
 
  
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997 Coast
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your remarks have a great deal of value

Bandit Many horse dealers out there mon brav

Stick to the ones we trust
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
RSJ have built a good reputation and loyal customer base through a proven sourcing, preparation, sales and after-sales experience focussed on a subset of the Porsche used market (997 + 991, 981, 987, no air-cooled or GT cars). It's given the RSJ brand some monetary value, hence they will price accordingly, many dealers have no value in their own brand and can't do that.

I was an RSJ customer just the once but am now a repeat customer of 911 Virgin, not due to any issues with RSJ, just preference and relationship with 911V. It's a competitive market in a competitive region that has other Porsche specialist dealers with strong brands and business models too, it's good to have a few to choose from Thumb



A very well written reply MJA. I also think it is good to have competition within the Porsche specialists - it's what keeps them on their toes.

My experience was that 911V didn't take my enquiry seriously enough at the time (back in 2012), so I called RSJ who were, and still are, exemplary. This doesn't mean I would rule out dealing with 911V in the future though, but my preference would always be RSJ, based purely on my own experiences.

Regarding another post on this thread where a buyer was left in two minds, the poster answered his own question; the 'premium' clearly goes in to the prep standards. My own car looked like a brand new version on collection, having had a lot new parts fitted prior to sale which included two new front tyres, new rear discs and pads, new wheel arch liners, new turbo fixings and a lot more besides. Premium? Not in my experience!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they seem to have a lot of stock
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
RSJ have built a good reputation and loyal customer base through a proven sourcing, preparation, sales and after-sales experience focussed on a subset of the Porsche used market (997 + 991, 981, 987, no air-cooled or GT cars). It's given the RSJ brand some monetary value, hence they will price accordingly, many dealers have no value in their own brand and can't do that.

I was an RSJ customer just the once but am now a repeat customer of 911 Virgin, not due to any issues with RSJ, just preference and relationship with 911V. It's a competitive market in a competitive region that has other Porsche specialist dealers with strong brands and business models too, it's good to have a few to choose from Thumb





they have an air-cooled currently up for sale
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my 996 C4S from RSJ a few years back. My first Porsche, so I was incredibly nervous and hesitant, but I did my due diligence on who to buy from - and they were one of the good guys from what I could see.

The car hadn't been prepped when I viewed and there were a few drips, but their assurances that it would be as new when I collected were spot on. A zero rated invoice to show the work that had been done was provided. Couldn't be happier. A couple of minor but expensive things cropped up during the warranty period which were sorted without question. Did it cost more than had I bought privately? Yes. But the piece of mind that came from the cover (for me as a newbie) - plus the value of the snags that were fixed meant it was certainly worth it for me. But ultimately you pay your money and you take your choice.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah @palladium, I shouldn’t have said no air cooled or GT cars, obviously incorrect given they have a 993 in stock at the moment. Not seen that before, not seen a GT car either, but doesn’t mean they haven’t, I stand corrected.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dp400 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies guys. Ive already been to view a car at RSJ and I like the car very much. They have told me for the price they are asking the car will be gone though thoroughly and any issues will be attended to, including painting the front end (stone chips), blowing in a scratch on the rear bumper and refurbing the wheels to get them perfect. However I think the same car were it not at RSJ would be £4k less even after they have done all the work above.

Obviously the 1 year warranty adds value, I guess I need to decide wether to take a chance on a cheaper private purchase, or pay a premium for an RSJ prepped and warrantied car.

Decisions decisions Question


No reason why a private car can't be as good as an RSJ offering. Just do your homework beforehand and shell out for the very best PPI including borescope on .1
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid question but are RSJ open to a bit of haggling or is the price 'the price'..... just curious before I go to see them....
 
  
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dp400
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richtw wrote:
Stupid question but are RSJ open to a bit of haggling or is the price 'the price'..... just curious before I go to see them....


From my experience no haggling. I ummmed and errred over the car I wanted as a result and when I finally made up my mind that I wanted it someone else had already put a deposit down!
 
  
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997 Coast
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knock yourself out and ring them

A good reputation earned. they seem to sort and resolve any issue prior to
cars being displayed

Someone remarked they seem pricey ?
I disagree for the fact that I would prefer to buy a Porsche from a Indy that
has their own house after sales warranty.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would consider 5k over the general market pricey, and personally would prefer to put my 5k into my own pot for potential repairs down the road. However, each to their own - I have my car, and if they are succeeding in inflating prices, that is ok with me.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poker2009 wrote:
I would consider 5k over the general market pricey, and personally would prefer to put my 5k into my own pot for potential repairs down the road. However, each to their own - I have my car, and if they are succeeding in inflating prices, that is ok with me.



This all day for me, but then again I wouldn't feel comfortable buying a car and losing money on it.

For plenty of people (and in fact, I'd wager to say the majority) the knowledge that the car they've bought is well sorted and has at least a year of worry-free driving is worth the extra few bags that RSJ (and similar) price their cars at
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my 997.1 C2S 18 months a go from Joel and Darren.

I had been scouring the market for a couple of months and in my opinion RSJ were about 10% above other dealers. As I work in Slough they did have an advantage on location.

I popped in one lunchtime to mainly chew the fat see what was new in stock having failed to find the right car so far. What instantly appealed to me was the quality of prep they had done on the cars they were selling. I honestly couldnt see any defects (scratches, dings poor paint work) anywhere on any car.

I decided there and then on a car they had in stock, and paid a deposit. I did raise a concern that to my untrained fingers the rear discs felt a bit worn and the rear stone guards were a bit faded.. I then went on holiday and picked up the car 3 weeks later. Presentation was excellent absolutely no issues at all and I was pleased to be informed that the guards and the rear discs had been replaced!

2 weeks later my water pump failed. No issues replaced next day under their warranty.

6 months later the gear linkage snapped/failed. Clearly out of the 3 month warranty and not engine or gearbox so not in the 1 year cover. Had the car recovered to RSJ. Picked it up 2 days later. NO CHARGE, goodwill as i'd been unlucky.

Would I buy there again? at a premium?. Of course. I trust them fully and would recommend.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought my first 911 from RSJ in April 2016. Took it to hartech to put it on the maintenance plan and they told me that I had a mint car albeit there was a minor problem with a coolant seal. Told me that the seal may or may not give out in the future.

So I got back to RSJ and they sorted it for me. It was a sizeable job for what it was as the whole engine had to be dropped to get at it and Hartech (who are very near me) would charge RSJ £2000 to do it. Consequently, I had to take the car back to Slough and leave it with them which I had no problem with. Hartech told me that it was one of the best gen 1 997's they have seen. In a nutshell, I was very happy with RSJ although I do agree that they are a tad expensive.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotpot wrote:
I was very happy with RSJ although I do agree that they are a tad expensive.


Yes but it would seem they'll correct 'any' problems after sale so you get what you pay for? Smile
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