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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Word of warning... 'Modern Classic Car Co' Negative Review Reply with quote

Mods - hope this is OK because if I had seen before buying I would have found a car locally or spent the money to go and look and not believe the dealers false promises

Excitedly, I bought a car from a Glasgow outfit run by Stephen Boag called Modern Classic Car Co. Without lots of details, a short summary.

Spent ages on the phone, 6 month warranty, just had 7k spent on recommissioning car after 10 years mostly in dry storage, loads of photos. Full history, loads of stamps, perfect car (for a 20yr old car). All promises made.

Offered to arrange delivery rather than me having to go up on a plane and drive the 400 miles home. ‘If it’s not as described, no problem, and remember it’s got a 6 month mechanical and electrical warranty’

Grey import, stamped book but no receipts, loads of issues (mostly niggle) and refusing to do anything. The warranty isn’t, it’s his personal guarantee which is worth zero.

So now have a car which will be a worthwhile investment after I spend a couple of grand to fix issues it was delivered.

I’m just instructing a solicitor, but if this post stops one other person being ripped off, it’s worth it. So please, treat as a private sale from this guy and definitely Buyer beware Cop
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Useful read.....

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=115814

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toddy2 wrote:
Useful read.....

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=115814

Review guidelines...

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=101930


Thanks. 1st would have been useful a month ago lol

I’ve been trying to talk with this guy thru phone, email etc for a month and no responses. He’s been advised I’m going to take legal action and I won’t go into detail as it can bore people.

Never given anyone a bad review before: not my style. But wouldn’t want to see anyone else take this fella at face value
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope everything works out for you. Keep us posted....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be a lot of this at present ,I was reading the linked other 911uk thread and saw this guy is a brother of the guy at Border Reivers straight away I remember reading another negative thread about this company recently.

I can't stress enough to anyone reading this in the future, buy your 911 from a well known and highly regarded Porsche specialist or get a PPI done before parting with money, unless its a very special car there is always another one dont let them blag you out of a deposit for a regular 911 when I say regular I mean ave spec, ave miles, in an ave colour.
yes a well priced riviara blue 4S might tempt me to put a few hundred down but never for a black or silver car there are just so many to choose from you dont need to take a gamble.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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toddy2 wrote:
Useful read.....

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=115814

Review guidelines...

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=101930


Thanks. 1st would have been useful a month ago lol

I’ve been trying to talk with this guy thru phone, email etc for a month and no responses. He’s been advised I’m going to take legal action and I won’t go into detail as it can bore people.

Never given anyone a bad review before: not my style. But wouldn’t want to see anyone else take this fella at face value


What kind of issues have you had with the car since you had it sent to you ?

Was there any paperwork that you signed when if was dropped off ? specifically to the condition of the car and what may or may not have been warranted ??

I ask as this sounds like a distance selling transaction and there is specific protection under the Consumer Contracts Regulations 2013
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bradders911 wrote:
toddy2 wrote:
Useful read.....

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=115814

Review guidelines...

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=101930


Thanks. 1st would have been useful a month ago lol

I’ve been trying to talk with this guy thru phone, email etc for a month and no responses. He’s been advised I’m going to take legal action and I won’t go into detail as it can bore people.

Never given anyone a bad review before: not my style. But wouldn’t want to see anyone else take this fella at face value


What kind of issues have you had with the car since you had it sent to you ?

Was there any paperwork that you signed when if was dropped off ? specifically to the condition of the car and what may or may not have been warranted ??

I ask as this sounds like a distance selling transaction and there is specific protection under the Consumer Contracts Regulations 2013


Tried that, he refuses to comply with the law.

He also told me he owns all his cars, not a stocking loan or a marketing business, actually owns them. Then later said he just markets them.

Signed nothing before sale, nor on delivery, and immediately raised concerns with the history and title of the car. We had agreed if it was wrong it was going back. Found evidence of work he would have known needed to be done and hid from the receipts he listed and sent.

Thanks for amending title, wasn’t sure if forum etiquette would allow it Smile

I am a bit in limbo, so think I will have to put the wrong bits right then sue for recovery of the cost, loss of earnings etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where these distance regulations apply and a trader does not provide the correct terms and conditions, they could face having to reimburse the full costs of the purchase up to 12 months from the date of the transaction without being able to deduct any amount for postage or the use of the goods during the time.

Apart from being an import what else have you found wrong with the car ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where these distance regulations apply and a trader does not provide the correct terms and conditions, they could face having to reimburse the full costs of the purchase up to 12 months from the date of the transaction without being able to deduct any amount for postage or the use of the goods during the time.

Apart from being an import what else have you found wrong with the car ?


Quick list after the first run a few days after delivery (it was delivered in the dark, so first real light inspection)
PCM code isn’t correct
Owners manual wasn’t there
Lots of fasteners missing
Runs warm (biggest worry)
Dash been out to try and repair a faulty temp gauge, it’s still faulty, shows car running at 200 even when just turned on
Rear window heater doesn’t work
Water pouring into the passenger seat on air con use
Paintwork issue on roof
Paintwork flat on rear panel
Fuel filler hinge broken
No filler lock
No receipts for history

Some of this is what I expected to have given his promises, some were found on first or second inspection/use

And the fact I paid dealer price for the security of a 6m warranty

He won’t answer a call after day 2, emails only when I threatened bailiffs, and nothing since. Has had ample opportunity to confirm he I’ll pay for the work needed and the guarantee stands, never mind the fact he rufuses to comply with distance selling.

All of these things would have made me get back on the plane and put the cost down to experience.

I have been incredibly reasonable so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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911UK wrote:
Where these distance regulations apply and a trader does not provide the correct terms and conditions, they could face having to reimburse the full costs of the purchase up to 12 months from the date of the transaction without being able to deduct any amount for postage or the use of the goods during the time.

Apart from being an import what else have you found wrong with the car ?


Quick list after the first run a few days after delivery (it was delivered in the dark, so first real light inspection)
PCM code isn’t correct
Owners manual wasn’t there
Lots of fasteners missing
Runs warm (biggest worry)
Dash been out to try and repair a faulty temp gauge, it’s still faulty, shows car running at 200 even when just turned on
Rear window heater doesn’t work
Water pouring into the passenger seat on air con use
Paintwork issue on roof
Paintwork flat on rear panel
Fuel filler hinge broken
No filler lock
No receipts for history

Some of this is what I expected to have given his promises, some were found on first or second inspection/use

And the fact I paid dealer price for the security of a 6m warranty

He won’t answer a call after day 2, emails only when I threatened bailiffs, and nothing since. Has had ample opportunity to confirm he I’ll pay for the work needed and the guarantee stands, never mind the fact he rufuses to comply with distance selling.

All of these things would have made me get back on the plane and put the cost down to experience.

I have been incredibly reasonable so far.


Dude ! OMG

I'm a Scot and i can tell you that one of the worst places to buy a car if you've had these issues is from a dealer North of the Border, Mad

lawyer up and sent it back asap, from that list it sounds like another grey import with issues I knew of that had a lot of paint and panels, esp since its an import with no papers nooo nooo nooo nooo nooo nooo nooo nooo
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure for the right price me and Johnny Dangerous could pay him a visit and have a chat regards a refund Hand Hand Hand Hand Shooter Gun Fire Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sure for the right price me and Johnny Dangerous could pay him a visit and have a chat regards a refund Hand Hand Hand Hand Shooter Gun Fire Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo


Tempting lol
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this was posted on the randomarket review site http://randomarket.ru/the-modern-classic-car-co/ and would appear that the op is not the 1st person to have problems with http://www.themodernclassiccarco.com/

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Posted on April 3, 2016 11:39 am - 15 Comments

Use some care and dont trust what Mark one of the owners says, I bought a car from them it was advertised as having a stainless steel sports exaust fitted, it was not fitted waw with the car mark agreed to supply it with the car as it was adverised. He even confirmed that in an email and said that when I arranged for the car to be collected the exaust would be dispatched with it !!

Needless to say it was not, and as if that was bad enough he has not even the decency to answer the phone or respond to an email .
In most business dealings I find most people and companies even the car trade gets lots of bad press but on the whole all my dealings withe car dealers have be quite trustworthy and reputable, maybe i have just had the good fortune of dealing with reputable companies up till now, and maybe thats why The modern classic car co proved my theory wrong and to be honest that hurts more than the loss of an exaust woth £500.

Mark and the modern classic car company are witout doubt un trust worthy and considering they are selling quite expensive classic cars where you would expect a higher degree of integrity from the dealer especially if you are spending £50K with them you deserve honesty.
Although my dealing with them have been brief, considering the fact that they are prepared to lie as blatently as they did, over something so trivual as not suppling an exaust that was with already with the car, what else would they cut corners with ! Suffice is to say i supect most of there car adverts that are by the way very well written with much talk of “beautifully presented”, “well cared for”, “exemplary service records” etc etc but are I suspect works largley of fiction

I would suggest avoid the modern classic car co and take your money elsewhere . And buy from hopefully a reputable dealer having checked these guys out I can confirm they are best avoided.

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Nigel says:
I have also dealt with them and they sold me an expensive porsche with a major fault and disappeared of the face of the earth when I tried to talk to them about the problem. I am now resorting to a solicitor to get my money back and this car I can’t use off my drive. Avoid at all costs.

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Haymaker says:
I’m another victim of this lot. Sold me an absolute polished turd with bent MOT and £5000 worth of remedial work just to get it roadworthy. The lowest, dishonest car dealer I’ve ever had the misfortune to stumble upon. Don’t make my mistake and assume some integrity with these people. They are crooks. Their photography is great, their descriptions are fiction and their cars are cheap dogs.
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Robert Grantham says:
I bought a Porsche 944T from Mark Heron, then trading as The Throttle Shop, it was advertised as immaculate show condition. I was stupid enough to buy the car without viewing and payed £14250 plus £75 delivery
Upon delivery I quickly found that the car was far from immaculate, it had several faults some potentially very serious, it would not start and refused to start throughout my 7 months of ownership, I later found out from a previous owner that the car was an insurance write off and it was clear that the car had been badly repaired.

Mark Heron refused to refund my money
I had an independent inspection and valuation carried out, I employed the services of a solicitor, all at a personal cost of over a £1000
Eventually after 7 months and the threat of legal action The Throttle Shop agreed to take the car back into stock and refunded me £12000
Unfortunately later I received a hand written letter from the current owner asking for information on the car and the seller Mark Heron, as he, just like me had bought the car unseen and had actually paid for the car before I received any money from Heron
With legal costs I lost over £3000 dealing with this crook but it could have been far worse

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Jon Strong says:
I too am having the same problems with this company, does anyone have a valid address for the dealership as all I can find is Killearn, Glasgow, no postcode. I do have his personnel house address if anyone wants it.

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Paul Mawman says:
Same here, taking them to court also.
the address for Cleardaze Ltd is
Carbeth House
Killearn
Glasgow
G639QB

I believe this is where the parent business is registered and is where their accountants are situated.

I could do with the home address if you have it. I purchased my car from an address in Buchlyvie, Stirlingshire.

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Robert says:
Hi Jon, the address I have is

Carbeth House
Killearn
G63 9QB

I hope this helps and good luck

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Hi can I have his personal home address please ?
Regards. Ian 07894051990

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Jon Strong says:
The home address I have for Stephen Boag is;
Stephen Boag, 11 Culbowie Cres, Buchlyvie, Stirling,FK8 3NH
Vat no 222843718

I have sent a registered letter pertaining to The Consumer Rights Act 2015 to to this address and it was received and signed for by Stephen Boag.

The Modern Classic Car Company address from Ebay details when he was selling a “Rolex” watch is;
25 Main Street, Killearn, Glasgow, G63 9NE.

The Modern Classic Car Company is the trading name of Cleardaze LTD. company number (SC499102) who’s other or sole director is called Mark Heron. The registered address for this is Strathclyde, Carbeth House, Killearn, Glasgow, Scotland, G639QB. It doesn’t come up on any Google maps.

I part exchanged my TVR Chimaera for a 2002 Porsche 996, has been on the road for only four days in the last month and have bills for £670 so far for new battery, ignition switch, shot radiator, faulty on board computer stalk and I still haven’t got the final appraisal from my very well qualified motor engineer yet.Stephen Boag will not return any telephone calls and is now saying via emails there are all sorts of things wrong with the TVR. but is listed on his website and PistonHeads as being one of the best available. Will keep you all informed of any progress. Very, very angry and frustrated, won’t say anymore at the moment for legal reasons.

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Ian says:
Hi, I’m after contacting this guy… I’ve got 2 or 3 different addresses for the guy. I was wondering how your getting on and if you wanted to meet up and both go up there together. Please contact me on 07894051990. Cheers Ian

Ps if this wasn’t recent don’t worry

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Jon Strong says:
Hi, Ian, I left a message on your answer machine if you want to have a chat about any of this.
Just got the Porsche back total bills £869.90 now, just to get the car running and back on the road after a month since purchase on 04/11/2016. Stephen Boag will not return any emails or return numerous telephone calls.
Work still to be done not described in his advert on Pistonheads;

1. Bad scrape under nearside front bumper, nor apparent until
looking underneath the vehicle.

2. Scratch on rear nearside wing.

3. Scratch above offside rear wheel arch.

4. Scratches on rear bumper (described by your self before purchase)

5. Faulty OBC stalk

6. Soft top not fitting correctly over drivers front and rear window, at least
4 mm gap which is leaking badly.

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Jon Strong says:
Bills now up to £890.00 and Stephen Boag will not reply to emails and numerous phone calls made, phoned his “partner” Mark Heron on 07713 862081 he was very apologetic and said would get Stephen to phone me, nothing. He said they ran the business of “The Modern Classic Car Company” with two bank accounts each were responsible for their own sales and that they were brothers but had different surnames. If you look on the their Pistonheads Classified page half the adds are in Stephen’s name the other in Mark’s.

Make of this what you will, I am more than happy to get together with any other dissatisfied customers and maybe together we can do something maybe on social media to highlight the practices of these two individuals

Stephen Boag is on facebook,
Mark Heron

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Robert Grantham says:
It beggars belief that these two are still getting away with it, my dealings with them were last year April to November. In my case the car was definitely misrepresented when advertised as immaculate show condition. I felt it important to report them to trading standards and sent them the original advertisement and a copy of the independent inspection I also know that the current owner and indeed the previous owner of the car reported their dealings to trading standards
If you suspect the advertising of the car was misleading do the same Jon, trading standards may well sit up and take notice this time

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Jon Strong says:
Hi Robert, in the process of talking with Trading Standards but just keep getting referred to Citizens Advice (Scotland) and am told I would have to go through the Scottish Small Claims procedure Form 3A The Simple Procedure Form. Costs £100 just to start the thing and you have to have the correct address. These guys are so slippery it’s hard to know which address to send it to. Did you get anywhere with Trading Standards?
It’s also been suggested to me that Stephen Boag & Mark Heron might even be the same person, I couldn’t possibly comment on that…
Cheers Jon.

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Hayemaker says:
Boag’s home address is

11 Culbowie Cres
Buchlyvie
FK8 3NH

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Robert Grantham says:
Hi Jon, I didn’t hear back from trading standards but the current owner of the car has had more luck, they paid for an inspection of the car and he has informed me that they are investigating Heron
The Porsche I bought from The Throttle Shop was in fact sold three times in succession by them, the first time the owner was able to return the vehicle due to a receipt he had that stated all cars were hpi clear (the car was written off in 1994) I was the 2nd buyer I lost £2250 plus legal fees. The 3rd buyer so far has been unsuccessful at returning the car and at present still has the Porsche
I too did hear that Boag and Heron are indeed the same person but I cannot confirm this
http://randomarket.ru/the-modern-classic-car-co/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a right ****, sorry but that's the only way to describe this chap Rolling Eyes

Hope you get this sorted OP

Good on Admin for their 'naming and shaming' policy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went to Border Reivers when I was travelling up to Scotland, didn't like the guy at all his patter stank, so I left. Always find it a bit of a laugh when he calls himself Border Reivers as these were 17th century raiders who raided the entire Border Region without regard to their victims or Nationality, looks like they're carrying on that tradition!
I lived in Scotland and one of my good friends is a car dealer in North Scotland and he always told me to never buy a car from a non franchised car dealer in or around Glasgow, ever!

I would act on this matter swiftly, instruct a Solicitor in Scotland, I might be wrong but as the transaction took place in Scotland you will need a Scottish Solicitor. This though shouldn't be an issue as you will need to instruct a solicitor anyway. They will write the usual letters then get him into court ASAP. Make sure you have all his details, is he a ltd company, if he is get the Directors details, home address's etc.
The other thing is do no remedial work to the car AT ALL, if you do it could be argues that you accept the car as it is and are prepared to carry out the repairs at your cost. So you need to decide, are you going to keep the car or reject it.
If you need a Scottish Solicitor I know one, PM me and I can put you in touch.
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porsche new guy wrote:
this was posted on the randomarket review site http://randomarket.ru/the-modern-classic-car-co/ and would appear that the op is not the 1st person to have problems with http://www.themodernclassiccarco.com/

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The Modern classic car co
Posted on April 3, 2016 11:39 am - 15 Comments

Use some care and dont trust what Mark one of the owners says, I bought a car from them it was advertised as having a stainless steel sports exaust fitted, it was not fitted waw with the car mark agreed to supply it with the car as it was adverised. He even confirmed that in an email and said that when I arranged for the car to be collected the exaust would be dispatched with it !!

Needless to say it was not, and as if that was bad enough he has not even the decency to answer the phone or respond to an email .
In most business dealings I find most people and companies even the car trade gets lots of bad press but on the whole all my dealings withe car dealers have be quite trustworthy and reputable, maybe i have just had the good fortune of dealing with reputable companies up till now, and maybe thats why The modern classic car co proved my theory wrong and to be honest that hurts more than the loss of an exaust woth £500.

Mark and the modern classic car company are witout doubt un trust worthy and considering they are selling quite expensive classic cars where you would expect a higher degree of integrity from the dealer especially if you are spending £50K with them you deserve honesty.
Although my dealing with them have been brief, considering the fact that they are prepared to lie as blatently as they did, over something so trivual as not suppling an exaust that was with already with the car, what else would they cut corners with ! Suffice is to say i supect most of there car adverts that are by the way very well written with much talk of “beautifully presented”, “well cared for”, “exemplary service records” etc etc but are I suspect works largley of fiction

I would suggest avoid the modern classic car co and take your money elsewhere . And buy from hopefully a reputable dealer having checked these guys out I can confirm they are best avoided.

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The Modern classic car co, cardealerdeals

Address: : killearn near Glasgow
Website: :
Phone: : 07713 862081
Author Name / Nickname: : chris f

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Nigel says:
I have also dealt with them and they sold me an expensive porsche with a major fault and disappeared of the face of the earth when I tried to talk to them about the problem. I am now resorting to a solicitor to get my money back and this car I can’t use off my drive. Avoid at all costs.

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Haymaker says:
I’m another victim of this lot. Sold me an absolute polished turd with bent MOT and £5000 worth of remedial work just to get it roadworthy. The lowest, dishonest car dealer I’ve ever had the misfortune to stumble upon. Don’t make my mistake and assume some integrity with these people. They are crooks. Their photography is great, their descriptions are fiction and their cars are cheap dogs.
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Robert Grantham says:
I bought a Porsche 944T from Mark Heron, then trading as The Throttle Shop, it was advertised as immaculate show condition. I was stupid enough to buy the car without viewing and payed £14250 plus £75 delivery
Upon delivery I quickly found that the car was far from immaculate, it had several faults some potentially very serious, it would not start and refused to start throughout my 7 months of ownership, I later found out from a previous owner that the car was an insurance write off and it was clear that the car had been badly repaired.

Mark Heron refused to refund my money
I had an independent inspection and valuation carried out, I employed the services of a solicitor, all at a personal cost of over a £1000
Eventually after 7 months and the threat of legal action The Throttle Shop agreed to take the car back into stock and refunded me £12000
Unfortunately later I received a hand written letter from the current owner asking for information on the car and the seller Mark Heron, as he, just like me had bought the car unseen and had actually paid for the car before I received any money from Heron
With legal costs I lost over £3000 dealing with this crook but it could have been far worse

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Jon Strong says:
I too am having the same problems with this company, does anyone have a valid address for the dealership as all I can find is Killearn, Glasgow, no postcode. I do have his personnel house address if anyone wants it.

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Paul Mawman says:
Same here, taking them to court also.
the address for Cleardaze Ltd is
Carbeth House
Killearn
Glasgow
G639QB

I believe this is where the parent business is registered and is where their accountants are situated.

I could do with the home address if you have it. I purchased my car from an address in Buchlyvie, Stirlingshire.

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Robert says:
Hi Jon, the address I have is

Carbeth House
Killearn
G63 9QB

I hope this helps and good luck

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says:
Hi can I have his personal home address please ?
Regards. Ian 07894051990

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Jon Strong says:
The home address I have for Stephen Boag is;
Stephen Boag, 11 Culbowie Cres, Buchlyvie, Stirling,FK8 3NH
Vat no 222843718

I have sent a registered letter pertaining to The Consumer Rights Act 2015 to to this address and it was received and signed for by Stephen Boag.

The Modern Classic Car Company address from Ebay details when he was selling a “Rolex” watch is;
25 Main Street, Killearn, Glasgow, G63 9NE.

The Modern Classic Car Company is the trading name of Cleardaze LTD. company number (SC499102) who’s other or sole director is called Mark Heron. The registered address for this is Strathclyde, Carbeth House, Killearn, Glasgow, Scotland, G639QB. It doesn’t come up on any Google maps.

I part exchanged my TVR Chimaera for a 2002 Porsche 996, has been on the road for only four days in the last month and have bills for £670 so far for new battery, ignition switch, shot radiator, faulty on board computer stalk and I still haven’t got the final appraisal from my very well qualified motor engineer yet.Stephen Boag will not return any telephone calls and is now saying via emails there are all sorts of things wrong with the TVR. but is listed on his website and PistonHeads as being one of the best available. Will keep you all informed of any progress. Very, very angry and frustrated, won’t say anymore at the moment for legal reasons.

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Ian says:
Hi, I’m after contacting this guy… I’ve got 2 or 3 different addresses for the guy. I was wondering how your getting on and if you wanted to meet up and both go up there together. Please contact me on 07894051990. Cheers Ian

Ps if this wasn’t recent don’t worry

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Jon Strong says:
Hi, Ian, I left a message on your answer machine if you want to have a chat about any of this.
Just got the Porsche back total bills £869.90 now, just to get the car running and back on the road after a month since purchase on 04/11/2016. Stephen Boag will not return any emails or return numerous telephone calls.
Work still to be done not described in his advert on Pistonheads;

1. Bad scrape under nearside front bumper, nor apparent until
looking underneath the vehicle.

2. Scratch on rear nearside wing.

3. Scratch above offside rear wheel arch.

4. Scratches on rear bumper (described by your self before purchase)

5. Faulty OBC stalk

6. Soft top not fitting correctly over drivers front and rear window, at least
4 mm gap which is leaking badly.

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Jon Strong says:
Bills now up to £890.00 and Stephen Boag will not reply to emails and numerous phone calls made, phoned his “partner” Mark Heron on 07713 862081 he was very apologetic and said would get Stephen to phone me, nothing. He said they ran the business of “The Modern Classic Car Company” with two bank accounts each were responsible for their own sales and that they were brothers but had different surnames. If you look on the their Pistonheads Classified page half the adds are in Stephen’s name the other in Mark’s.

Make of this what you will, I am more than happy to get together with any other dissatisfied customers and maybe together we can do something maybe on social media to highlight the practices of these two individuals

Stephen Boag is on facebook,
Mark Heron

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Robert Grantham says:
It beggars belief that these two are still getting away with it, my dealings with them were last year April to November. In my case the car was definitely misrepresented when advertised as immaculate show condition. I felt it important to report them to trading standards and sent them the original advertisement and a copy of the independent inspection I also know that the current owner and indeed the previous owner of the car reported their dealings to trading standards
If you suspect the advertising of the car was misleading do the same Jon, trading standards may well sit up and take notice this time

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Jon Strong says:
Hi Robert, in the process of talking with Trading Standards but just keep getting referred to Citizens Advice (Scotland) and am told I would have to go through the Scottish Small Claims procedure Form 3A The Simple Procedure Form. Costs £100 just to start the thing and you have to have the correct address. These guys are so slippery it’s hard to know which address to send it to. Did you get anywhere with Trading Standards?
It’s also been suggested to me that Stephen Boag & Mark Heron might even be the same person, I couldn’t possibly comment on that…
Cheers Jon.

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Hayemaker says:
Boag’s home address is

11 Culbowie Cres
Buchlyvie
FK8 3NH

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Robert Grantham says:
Hi Jon, I didn’t hear back from trading standards but the current owner of the car has had more luck, they paid for an inspection of the car and he has informed me that they are investigating Heron
The Porsche I bought from The Throttle Shop was in fact sold three times in succession by them, the first time the owner was able to return the vehicle due to a receipt he had that stated all cars were hpi clear (the car was written off in 1994) I was the 2nd buyer I lost £2250 plus legal fees. The 3rd buyer so far has been unsuccessful at returning the car and at present still has the Porsche
I too did hear that Boag and Heron are indeed the same person but I cannot confirm this
http://randomarket.ru/the-modern-classic-car-co/
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Wow I think we need to get the modern classic car co up google rankings !

http://www.themodernclassiccarco.com/carsforsale

When you put this and the piston heads thread together and the guys holier than thou attitude on there its shocking. Surely he has been called out on piston heads ?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I do an “incognito” google search for

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This thread is no2 in the search results Thumb
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I think anyone looking to buy a car from www.themodernclassiccarco.com would be good to read this thread for feedback one www.themodernclassiccarco.com rather than looking at their stock on www.themodernclassiccarco.com/carsforsale
 
  
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And the great thing is that if you did search for

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Looking for the modern classic car co

And came across this thread you would spend quite a bit of time reading it .... which google loves Thumb
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