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C4-STORM
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: Flappy Paddle Mod Reply with quote

Half way there!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Flappy Paddle Mod Reply with quote

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Fitment Question
Retrim Question



http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=97582&highlight=flappy+paddle

All part of the service Grin

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb



I agree! I actually prefer driving it most of the time to a manual!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Flappy Paddle Mod Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
C4-STORM wrote:

Fitment Question
Retrim Question



http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=97582&highlight=flappy+paddle

All part of the service Grin

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Thanks guys can't wait..

Cheers Jin for the wheel, managed to grab a set of shifters from eBay yesterday BNIB and same part number as that brilliant thread above which I will use for my DIY conversion.

Just waiting for Royal Steering Wheels to come back to me for the (optional) retrim in black alcantara top/bottom with black perforated leather sides, silver stitching and a centre band either silver or red.. Grin

Not sure what that will set me back but I appreciate all your help in gathering basic components and the guy on eBay who accepted my offer on his shifters.. Grin

Let's hope I don't feck it up eh!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

911tom wrote:
One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb


Hey Tom,

Can I ask who did your re-wiring of your paddle wheel on your Turbo?

I believe I've seen you at MK meet once, so hoping you have a local company to us (fellow Bucks owner) that undertook the work that I can use for mine.

I have the wheel all re-trimmed and paddles installed... just need a good auto electrician to work their magic in connecting it all up.

So recommendations would be ace.

Thanks

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C4-STORM
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrB wrote:
911tom wrote:
One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb


Hey Tom,

Can I ask who did your re-wiring of your paddle wheel on your Turbo?

I believe I've seen you at MK meet once, so hoping you have a local company to us (fellow Bucks owner) that undertook the work that I can use for mine.

I have the wheel all re-trimmed and paddles installed... just need a good auto electrician to work their magic in connecting it all up.

So recommendations would be ace.

Thanks

Mr B


Got any pics of yours bud Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got any pics of yours bud Thumb


Hi C4-STORM

The wheel, sadly not... it's sitting in my garage, but when I am next over there I'll get a few pics. I have extended black leather interior on my Forest Green Turbo, so opted for a alcantara trim (that matches the roof lining) and has a red 12'o'Clock marker to match the brake callipers.

Genuinely can't wait to have it fitted, hence keen to hear Tom's response! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrB wrote:
911tom wrote:
One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb


Hey Tom,

Can I ask who did your re-wiring of your paddle wheel on your Turbo?

I believe I've seen you at MK meet once, so hoping you have a local company to us (fellow Bucks owner) that undertook the work that I can use for mine.

I have the wheel all re-trimmed and paddles installed... just need a good auto electrician to work their magic in connecting it all up.

So recommendations would be ace.

Thanks

Mr B


You dont need to get a company to do the electrics if you have a bit of DIY skill:

The wiring is very simple - just figure out which wire is for the "up" shift and which wire is for the "down" shift (these are connected to the switches on your current wheel so fairly obvious)

Then just strip the wire, put a new connector on, and then attach it to your new switch!

If that does seem too much, then be assured that any professional should be able to figure it out easily enough.


The hardest bit is aligning the new paddles to look and feel as comfortable as possible, as you'll need to cut away foam (and some metal)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a pic of my install, forgive the crappy photo but I was quite excited!



I'll get a better "classy" shot at some point
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrB wrote:
911tom wrote:
One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb


Hey Tom,

Can I ask who did your re-wiring of your paddle wheel on your Turbo?

I believe I've seen you at MK meet once, so hoping you have a local company to us (fellow Bucks owner) that undertook the work that I can use for mine.

I have the wheel all re-trimmed and paddles installed... just need a good auto electrician to work their magic in connecting it all up.

So recommendations would be ace.

Thanks

Mr B


I got the whole job done by edition 9. Thing is mine was done 5 years ago. At that time it was a new mod and no one New what parts were being used! As such I did not need to wire mine but as it happens I am an electrician so if you need a hand I’m happy to help. thumbsup
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay. wrote:
Here's a pic of my install, forgive the crappy photo but I was quite excited!



I'll get a better "classy" shot at some point


Are the shifters easy enough to reach? I have a DCT daily driver and the shape of the paddle is a similar blade but with a pad part sticking out and very ergonomic to the fingers
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay. wrote:
Here's a pic of my install, forgive the crappy photo but I was quite excited!

I'll get a better "classy" shot at some point


Thanks Jay!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MrB wrote:
911tom wrote:
One of the best mods you can do on a tip. Completely changed the way I drove mine. Thumb




I got the whole job done by edition 9. Thing is mine was done 5 years ago. At that time it was a new mod and no one New what parts were being used! As such I did not need to wire mine but as it happens I am an electrician so if you need a hand I’m happy to help. thumbsup


Hi Tom,

That is immensely kind of you and an offer I will most likely take you up on as in truth... wiring scare the hell out of me! The wheel needs fitting, but all the paddles are in situ and fitted... just the clever wiring bit remains! Sadly the Turbo is off shortly to have its spoiler rams replaced so once thats back lets reconvene.

Best wishes Mr B (Nath)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4-STORM wrote:
Jay. wrote:
Here's a pic of my install, forgive the crappy photo but I was quite excited!



I'll get a better "classy" shot at some point


Are the shifters easy enough to reach? I have a DCT daily driver and the shape of the paddle is a similar blade but with a pad part sticking out and very ergonomic to the fingers


Yep fairly easy - I was initially going to buy some extenders, but I don't need them. Fingers sit within easy distance of them, and the only issue I have is when I have turned the wheel 180 and need to shift from 1st to 2nd
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...which is why buttons on the steering wheel work so well...always accessible...I was seriously thinking about completing this mod however two things stopped me; I like to maintain originality thus won't make changes to standard and really don't think,aside from the aesthetic, the paddles add much over the tip' buttons?

Each to their own...
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...which is why buttons on the steering wheel work so well...always accessible...I was seriously thinking about completing this mod however two things stopped me; I like to maintain originality thus won't make changes to standard and really don't think,aside from the aesthetic, the paddles add much over the tip' buttons?

Each to their own...


There's nothing to stop you keeping the buttons AND installing the paddles.

The buttons are no easier to press when mid-turn, in fact I'd say it's harder as you need to try and rock the button the correct way (which on a 180 wheel turn will be the wrong way round - e.g. up for a downshift).

This problem is literally only when setting off from a standstill in 1st out of a T junction.. I've gotten used to it, I just shift a little early (or late Cool ) and that's that.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, paddles and buttons, now there's a thought! Best of both worlds perhaps and if I installed black paddles it won't look too out of keeping?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have opted to fit the paddles to a manual wheel which will take the airbag and centre cover from the standard tiptronic wheel.

I can therefore change the steering wheels back as required and it also means I am not butchering the original steering wheel - also easier for sending off for a retrim, swapping over etc.

Incidentally switches arrived yesterday and I spent several hours ( Embarassed ) last night hacking copious amounts of rubber shavings out of the back of the wheel which contrary to what anyone says - Is not an easy task!!

It also felt wrong.

But the cut-outs are centralised and symmetrical. It is tricky as there is very little room for error.

What does not really get mentioned is that the Merc switches have a flanged piece of alu which is the external surround of the paddle shifter.

The profile of this being too convex is not a good fit for the lesser curved shape of the back of the steering wheel..

I have now noticed that some people have cut slots for the lead and rear edges of the surround to sink into.

I don't want to do this as I have a perfect cut each side. Also I cut quite deep and therefore the surround flanged edges will hold the whole assy firmly in place - but the question is can you apply enough purchase with a screw from the inside to pull the whole shifter assembly in hard (without breaking/cracking/stripping the plastic) Confused

All of the above may not make any sense to anyone who hasn't attempted this for themselves Hand

Whilst I am posting I would also recommend a retrim after making cuts for several reasons - additional enhancement and too finish the wheel nicely as it could easily get damaged - luckily mine did not Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Flappy Paddle Mod Reply with quote

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Half way there!

Manual steering wheel Thumb
AMG Paddle Switches Thumb
Fitment Thumb
Retrim Thumb


Finally finished this, and it works! (After I put everything back together without fixing the grounds ) frustrated

The paddles are a bstd to fit but I have achieved a professional/OE finish.

Big thanks to HSC911 and Jack from Royal thumbsup

Couple of before and after pics, this mod is well worth a try but be careful with blades, soldering etc.. etc.. Cool
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