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kas750
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you got a list of potential makes/models?

V8 Vantage,still Rolling Eyes C63,S4,S5,.. wack Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I must be the only petrol head in the world that thinks the V8 is not all that.
Much prefer a 5, 6, 10 or 12 before a V8.

I’ve never had one though so it’s a box I need to tick


Fair enough, I have but just didn't think it was all that great. How about a B7 RS4? Suppose to be really good and have pretty much bottomed out. I think you need something different from a sports car as you will just compare it the 911.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kas750 wrote:
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I must be the only petrol head in the world that thinks the V8 is not all that.
Much prefer a 5, 6, 10 or 12 before a V8.

I’ve never had one though so it’s a box I need to tick


Fair enough, I have but just didn't think it was all that great. How about a B7 RS4? Suppose to be really good and have pretty much bottomed out. I think you need something different from a sports car as you will just compare it the 911.

Very true. I’m open to ideas
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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alex yates wrote:
Have you got a list of potential makes/models?

V8 Vantage,still Rolling Eyes C63,S4,S5,.. wack Question


Plenty of choice for Vantage with 25 for sale on PH's with price up to £35k
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sub 24k car last week in Preston was a steal.

Still think the Maserati 4200 GT (with manual box) is worth a look. Ferrari 4.2 V8 - what's not to like. Can easily be bagged for under 20k too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are very big differences between the Ferrari and Maserati engines. With the F430 and Gran Turismo I think they share the same block, but that is about it. The key defining characteristic of the Ferrari engine for me is the flat plane crank, this is not present in the Maserati version. As such it takes on the more traditional burbling V8 nature rather than the high pitched sound of the Ferrari engine.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As such it takes on the more traditional burbling V8 nature rather than the high pitched sound of the Ferrari engine.

MC


Isn't that what Ady's looking for?


I'm not a fan of the Gran Tourismo - they just look too big and heavy. The 4200 GT is far more nimble and better in the twisties.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That sub 24k car last week in Preston was a steal.


There has been a V8 Vantage posted on FB marketplace with 72,000 miles for 18.5k
Surprised

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1479735535584497/permalink/2270849496473093?sale_post_id=2270849496473093&sfns=xmo
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
alex yates wrote:
That sub 24k car last week in Preston was a steal.


There has been a V8 Vantage posted on FB marketplace with 72,000 miles for 18.5k
Surprised

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1479735535584497/permalink/2270849496473093?sale_post_id=2270849496473093&sfns=xmo


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
There are very big differences between the Ferrari and Maserati engines. With the F430 and Gran Turismo I think they share the same block, but that is about it. The key defining characteristic of the Ferrari engine for me is the flat plane crank, this is not present in the Maserati version. As such it takes on the more traditional burbling V8 nature rather than the high pitched sound of the Ferrari engine.

MC


The Ferrari dna is in the Maser Quatroporte, the 4200 GT, the Gransport, the F430, the ferrari California, and the Ferrai 458.
Ferrari does use a flat plane crank and as you know the difference between it and a cross'plane crank, there is no need to go into the pros and cons of each.

But a cross-plane Gransport is a blueprinted engine, handcassembled by Ferrari and installed into the GS. Matched to a transaxle F1 360 gearbox and F430 F1 electrohydraulic clutch with blips on downshifts, valved exhaust and red-line at 7.5k it ain't half bad for aural stimulation.

The beauty of a Maser or a Ferrari is in the low numbers and rarity value that give a great feeling - and impact on residuals. Italian V8 stuff is different and is like nowt you read from non-owners. Just get a good sorted car from the outset that's been used, driven and maintained with advisories at service being fixed. Larini X or H pipe with back boxes sound awesone. A Granturismo MC Stradale sounds awesome. Just to qualify 'low numbers' means prior to mass-production methods for the GranTurismo introduced in 2007/8. The 4.2 in that is shared with the QP Series V. Plenty of Granturismo cars for sale - especially 4.2 slushbox autos, not as many S cars with the 4.7 engine.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bargain and nice little project. Right up your street mate. Mint it up for the summer, enjoy wafting around our lovely countryside in it then move it on next year for a 15k profit.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not a fan of the Gran Tourismo - they just look too big and heavy. The 4200 GT is far more nimble and better in the twisties.


My brother in law and I spent a day at the Excel classic show last month and decided that Ferraris are too big nowadays. In the confines of the auction stand they looked far too wide, especially next to an older 911.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s a no to the Maserati. I’ve no doubt of it’s engineeing excellence but I personally couldn’t live with the looks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price lowered on the 911.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It’s a no to the Maserati. I’ve no doubt of it’s engineeing excellence but I personally couldn’t live with the looks.
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I don't think there was a recommendation, rather a clarification on V8 sound between a cross plane crank and a flat plane crank to MC's comment and a general remark about Italian V8s getting under the skin. You have some good choices for your available budget, so you should be able to get yourself into some kind of V8. You'll love them. The C63 stands out for me - but then I've always been a Merc man.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I got a call whilst I was at Beamish museum with my lad Joe from someone who wanted to view my 911 and he was from Glasgow.
So this evening he came down bought,paid and gone.

Dont know Surprised


I should be pleased but I'm mostly sad wack
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good result!

I know the feeling.
I’m also getting that age old feeling that no matter what my budget is, the next car I want is always in the next price band up. frustrated Grin

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
Today I got a call whilst I was at Beamish museum with my lad Joe from someone who wanted to view my 911 and he was from Glasgow.
So this evening he came down bought,paid and gone.

Dont know Surprised


I should be pleased but I'm mostly sad wack


He got wind of the prototype double ended resonator bung Thumb

Well done mate. The hunt can really start to begin thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers chaps.
Today’s view!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7.0L V8?? Dont know Grin

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