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Marky911
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah despite warning from mates (one still has a Vantage) I was having a sly look at the V8Vs (along with F types), but they are by all accounts a wafter not a focussed B road blaster.

What’s your thinking now then Kas? I was hell bent on changing and I’ve had a guy on all week wanting mine but now it’s crunch time I’m genuinely struggling to say yes take it. Dont know
 
  
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Alex
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think all 3 of us have the same dilemma at the moment.

Who'da thought the 996 would have so much love Dont know

I'm getting to the point I've started looking at £50k cars and nothing makes me feel like I'm going to be climbing into a hotter seat nooo
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too right that’s where I’m at (a bit over £50k actually) with deal agreed but I’m 50/50 on pulling out of it all.

My buyer is a nice guy who’s been in touch most days since last week but tonight he’s begun quibbling over the £18k minimum I’ll take, which I made clear at the start.

I totted up mine at the weekend. I’ve spent £16k+ on top of the £13k purchase, so £29k!! So I’ve restored the car with all the best bits, for the next owner at a loss of £11k to myself.

Sellers of the new car are ok but I’m just questioning the whole deal.
I think I might message my buyer in the morning and just say we’ll leave it.

The replacement car is £37k on top of my C2! So I’m as happy to leave it as I am to buy it I think. Especially when you add my £11k loss.

Sorry for hijack Ady, I should have put this in my own thread actually, but I know me, you and Alex are in the same boat.
Very interested to see what you do next. Thumb
 
  
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kas750
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark,Alex I just can’t part with this 996 for now.
When an Aston specialists says that you need a 4.7 if you want it to feel like your Porsche then you know you are probably already driving the right car.
With an increased budget comes increased expectation but sadly I don’t think this is delivered pro rata.
 
  
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wasz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its all marginal gains and laws of diminishing returns.

Thing is 996 (and 986) are so undervalued you have to spend an awful lot more for something that will do what it does any better. And then you will worry about parking it anywhere.

Marky you are mad to sell that car, should be well over £20k and would probably be a lot more on the forecourt of a dealer.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201902235228777
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too had the thought of selling and being a V8 Vantage. Until looking at examples described as great and in reality where a tatty mess. It strengthened my opinion that the 996 is a bloody brilliant car that is very (IMO) undervalued at the moment. It would take a lot for me to change it.

Ive also a friend who's a serial new sports car buyer. From the stacks he's had the Vantage was the most disappointing. In regards to both driving and reliability.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
Its all marginal gains and laws of diminishing returns.

Thing is 996 (and 986) are so undervalued you have to spend an awful lot more for something that will do what it does any better. And then you will worry about parking it anywhere.

Marky you are mad to sell that car, should be well over £20k and would probably be a lot more on the forecourt of a dealer.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201902235228777



The guy selling that is on crack. There is a huge gap in the history.
18k miles and 10 years.

IMO, for what its worth, Markys car is £18k+ all day long. Just try and find another one.....
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:
Too right that’s where I’m at (a bit over £50k actually) with deal agreed but I’m 50/50 on pulling out of it all.

My buyer is a nice guy who’s been in touch most days since last week but tonight he’s begun quibbling over the £18k minimum I’ll take, which I made clear at the start.

I totted up mine at the weekend. I’ve spent £16k+ on top of the £13k purchase, so £29k!! So I’ve restored the car with all the best bits, for the next owner at a loss of £11k to myself.

Sellers of the new car are ok but I’m just questioning the whole deal.
I think I might message my buyer in the morning and just say we’ll leave it.

The replacement car is £37k on top of my C2! So I’m as happy to leave it as I am to buy it I think. Especially when you add my £11k loss.

Sorry for hijack Ady, I should have put this in my own thread actually, but I know me, you and Alex are in the same boat.
Very interested to see what you do next. Thumb


Marky, when you remove the emotional GT3 attachment when all is said and done, is it really worth an additional £48K?
 
  
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Marky911
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasz and Crash you're right but I won't derail Ady's thread.
I'll cover it in mine. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just 2 words for you guys looking for a 996 replacement:

Lotus Evora.

It's a LOT like a 996, with better steering and handling. Engine's not quite as good in NA form ,but better in S form. A truly special, British car. Totally reliable mechanically, just a few minor niggles electrically.

Both the 996 and the Evora won EVO Car of the Year. Both great cars.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No faster and potentially too much depreciation.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
I drove another one..It wasn't a one off.... they're all sh1te Mr. Green


Was out on this lash tonight and nearly threw 25 bags of sh1te at this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aston-Martin-Vantage-4-3-v8-2006-manual-px-poss/254133521767


I'm not convinced this wasn't worth £24k!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
kas750 wrote:
I drove another one..It wasn't a one off.... they're all sh1te Mr. Green


Was out on this lash tonight and nearly threw 25 bags of sh1te at this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aston-Martin-Vantage-4-3-v8-2006-manual-px-poss/254133521767


I'm not convinced this wasn't worth £24k!


Wooaaa there tiger, step away from the keyboard, or it will hurt in the morning Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously though, this car is 10 miles from mine. You're not telling me that wasn't worth £24k????

I could've always walked Dont know


..........and what's £24k when you're drunk? Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do still look so damn good! Cool

I can see the temptation, at that price especially. Surprised
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine, a AM V8V or a future bore scored 997 C2S Dont know

Which one's gonna rip the wallet most?

Which one sounds the best?

Which one looks the best?

All food for thought. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Imagine, a AM V8V or a future bore scored 997 C2S Dont know

Which one's gonna rip the wallet most?

Which one sounds the best?

Which one looks the best?

All food for thought. Confused


The 997 Grin

And you KNOW, it will drive the best thumbsup
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think to go the AM route you would need to accept that the looks and sound are glorious but dynamically it would be a backwards step compared to a 911.
I still can’t stop looking at them though Embarassed PC wack Mr. Green
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
I think to go the AM route you would need to accept that the looks and sound are glorious but dynamically it would be a backwards step compared to a 911.
I still can’t stop looking at them though Embarassed PC wack Mr. Green


Exactly this. I have the Sports Pack option on my DB9, which is supposed to improve the response somewhat, but whatever it is a big heavy car. The Vantage isn't much smaller. It is much more a GT than a sports car.
A 2007 V8V has a 200mm longer wheelbase and is 100mm wider than a 996 C2, it also weighs around 200kg more.

MC
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...that is a lot of car for £24k ! Just look at it Surprised
 
  
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