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Dammit
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was my car there's no question in my mind at all - it'd be amber all round.

The original Pinky Lai design was done for amber indicators - look at the way they take the shut-line between front PU and bonnet/wings in gentle arcs through each light. You lose that with the clear indicators, and I think it's loses an element of the design.

Once you decide that the amber headlights are what you want then (again, I personally) would have to make everything match.

I made my later, Litronic lights amber:



And whilst my car is in for a complete re-spray I've asked the sprayer to look at painting the lights permanently, replacing the vinyl.

Do it!
 
  
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wasz
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
Nice one chum Thumb Are you going to do anything with the leather on the seats as one reminds me of my scrotum after I've got out of a very warm bath what


What do you do to correct it? After a long soak in water iron it smooth?

And would the same work on the seats?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Ady, you got one in the end thumbsup
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Kris.Its been a slow burner for sure! Laughing
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great project, looks fantastic
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I have tidied up the disc bells,brake calipers and wheel bolts.

 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This afternoon I made a start on machine polishing the paint.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have to move the Dart board

Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
You may have to move the Dart board

Grin

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a great project. Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good Kas,

as for the lights, I just personally don't like ambers. Having said that I could live with them on a non-aerokitted car, but if kitted it has to be clears, as per GT3.
 
  
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kas750
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marky911 wrote:
Looking good Kas,

as for the lights, I just personally don't like ambers. Having said that I could live with them on a non-aerokitted car, but if kitted it has to be clears, as per GT3.


I have placed a wanted ad on here for a pair of amber rears,just as an experiment really as I intend to have an amber and clear set. thumbsup
 
  
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alex yates
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kas750 wrote:
Marky911 wrote:
Looking good Kas,

as for the lights, I just personally don't like ambers. Having said that I could live with them on a non-aerokitted car, but if kitted it has to be clears, as per GT3.


I have placed a wanted ad on here for a pair of amber rears,just as an experiment really as I intend to have an amber and clear set. thumbsup


Call me new-fashioned but I'm with Mark. I always think the ambers just make the car look like an old Corgi toy.

Clear light pack all round, silver flasher bulbs all round and the internal orange filter removed. Keeps the car looking ice-cool.

All personal preference I suppose.

Same goes for reg plates too. No messy stuff like GB badge, garage name, postcode, etc. Nice and clean to the point you get that monochrome look.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this Boxster concept shows the underlying idea quite well:



As I understand it (which is doubtless imperfectly) the idea was to bring the scattering of lights into one coherent unit, whilst maintaining the iconic round headlight shape within the new single piece lamp assembly, and at the same time emphasise the single shut line across the nose.

If you look at the 993 you have two distinct units (ironically all clear on this car):



What Pinky Lai did was to move them all into a single assembly whilst trying to maintain the character of the 911 - which based on the public reaction to the design wasn't a massive success it must be said.

But! If you look at the car you can see the iconic shape:
 



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="alex yates"][quote="kas750"][quote="Marky911"]

Clear light pack all round, silver flasher bulbs all round and the internal orange filter removed. Keeps the car looking ice-cool.
Who's this cool customer?'
- Ice white shoes.
- Ice white socks with navy blue double cadet stripe.
- A pair of shorts.
- t-shirt with chevron action flash.
'L'homme du sport!, (Man of sport)
- A tossed pink sweater, that says I'm in Paris and nothing's going to stop me.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasz wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Nice one chum Thumb Are you going to do anything with the leather on the seats as one reminds me of my scrotum after I've got out of a very warm bath what


What do you do to correct it? After a long soak in water iron it smooth?

And would the same work on the seats?


try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTZpRiLq_TA
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timm996 wrote:
Who's this cool customer?'
- Ice white shoes.
- Ice white socks with navy blue double cadet stripe.
- A pair of shorts.
- t-shirt with chevron action flash.
'L'homme du sport!, (Man of sport)
- A tossed pink sweater, that says I'm in Paris and nothing's going to stop me.


Not you if that's your attire. Although I never mentioned anything about cool customers, just cars looking cooler with clear light packs. Most 90s cars I owned had already ditched ambers. Can't believe Porsche fit ambers on a late 90s model.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
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But! If you look at the car you can see the iconic shape:
http://911uk.com/files/round_lights_176.jpg


In this photo you can quite clearly see the family from the lights - they look like theyve been darkened outside the oval though. Cant seem to find a photo to show what mine look like (its at Chelsea Carerra today) but theyre definately a lot "brighter" with less defined ovals. I like the look of these ones - anyone know if those lights are modified?
 
  
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wasz
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit wrote:
As I understand it (which is doubtless imperfectly) the idea was to bring the scattering of lights into one coherent unit, whilst maintaining the iconic round headlight shape within the new single piece lamp assembly, and at the same time emphasise the single shut line across the nose.


I agree with this. I do think most cars look much better "as the designer originally intended", before they are "updated".

Most likely Pinky Lai agonised over those headlights for months, only to be overruled later because the public connected ambers with dated looks (every other car company at the time was dropping ambers). You do loose the continuation of the line and the separation of the lights as you say with clears.

I have ambers front and rear still waiting to go on mine, as it would have been originally supplied.
 
  
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Martyg
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to hate the ambers but they have really grown on me lately. I think they quite suit cars of that era.
 
  
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