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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:04 am    Post subject: Fags and Beer in the factory Reply with quote

Has this story been told?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please enlighten.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I was most impressed that the Porsche workers could take a beer on their breaks if they so wished ....... I think it was mentioned by me earlier on in a thread ....... Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recanted this to a colleague at work who seemed incredulous. 100% true and I have witnesses. On the factory tour my nose was twitching. Whilst watching bodies in white passing overhead and marvelling at the efficiency of it all i noticed tables and chairs sited just off the production line. A fitter in Porsche overalls sits having a fag. I ask the tour guide. He explains that 'colleagues' on the production line get 5 minutes every hour as a break. It's a three minute walk to get outside and making employees who smoke stand out in the cold or rain to indulge their habit is demotivational. Thus, in their wisdom, the factory allow colleagues to smoke on the production line.

The tour guide, Jeff, then states (as some may know already) that in Germany beer is considered merely a beverage rather than an alcoholic drink. Thus the pride of Germany's workforce are smoking lardies and sipping beer whilst screwing new Porsches together.

I'd never read this before and still wonder how it fits in with those who don't smoke and don't want to be close to those that do. Maybe the unions have a tight grip on the Porsche boards nut sack?

This was the single most interesting thing I learnt at the factory!
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beer and fags in the workplace is definitely a German trait. I have worked there several times. Where I was it was a 5 o`clock thing, on the dot, the bodyshop owner would put a beer down for you, then another Very Happy .
12 o`clock Friday the BBQ was lit and everyone had lunch and beer. Thumb
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highway wrote:
I recanted this to a colleague at work who seemed incredulous. 100% true and I have witnesses. On the factory tour my nose was twitching. Whilst watching bodies in white passing overhead and marvelling at the efficiency of it all i noticed tables and chairs sited just off the production line. A fitter in Porsche overalls sits having a fag. I ask the tour guide. He explains that 'colleagues' on the production line get 5 minutes every hour as a break. It's a three minute walk to get outside and making employees who smoke stand out in the cold or rain to indulge their habit is demotivational. Thus, in their wisdom, the factory allow colleagues to smoke on the production line.

The tour guide, Jeff, then states (as some may know already) that in Germany beer is considered merely a beverage rather than an alcoholic drink. Thus the pride of Germany's workforce are smoking lardies and sipping beer whilst screwing new Porsches together.

I'd never read this before and still wonder how it fits in with those who don't smoke and don't want to be close to those that do. Maybe the unions have a tight grip on the Porsche boards nut sack?

This was the single most interesting thing I learnt at the factory!


That's very interesting, and just proves that things are more efficient when the petty bureaucrats and jobs worths are told to go and f"!k themselves.
good on the Germans

PS I don't smoke or drink much, but hate being told by unimportant little nobodies what I can and can't do.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2016 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highway wrote:

This was the single most interesting thing I learnt at the factory!


I thought you were more intrigued by the shaping of the leather for the gearstick and gaiter being made by Inga Dont know
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please enlighten.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semi related in as much it is automotive and drinking related

A few employments ago I was Supplier Quality Assurance engineer for a bearing manufacturer who supplied into Ford, Nissan, Honda, Toyota.
As part of an outsourcing project I spent some time in Sweden at a steel works, foundry and machine shops inspecting and signing off first production pieces.
At each meal beer was served in the works canteen, the strength got progressively stronger as the day wore on, typically 2% at breakfast and 4% by tea time if you were on a late shift.

Earlier in my career I spent some time at lineside at the Ford Hailwood plant carrying out some workstudy evaluations, you had to move pretty fast at breaktime as the gangway between the lines became a makeshift badminton court and a net was hung between the cars on adjacent lines.

At the Kamaz foundry in Russia it was routine to be offered Vodka in meetings.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They must have been on Belgian beer when they were building the M96/7s...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the late '80s I worked for 2 years in Munich.

My colleagues used to arrive early for work. They would congregate around the fridge that was installed on the shop floor, crack a bottle open, using their cigarette lighters, and have a chat before starting work at 8am.

One chap, Herman, would then proceed to drink another 8 bottles (half litre) before the end of the day.

(I know..."Herman the German" sounds like a Stan Boardman joke ...if anyone can remember him)

I had impeccable standards.... I NEVER touched a drop........well before 9am at least. Floor

Them were the days Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhodris-dad wrote:



(I know..."Herman the German" sounds like a Stan Boardman joke ...if anyone can remember him)

Very Happy


Didn't he bomb our chippie?


When I was a new graduate I worked at ICI Paints in Slough. At the time it was a paint production site. At the back of the staff canteen was a pub! One of my colleague would have his lunch and then down about 4 pints, come back to his desk and sleep it off all afternoon - EVERY day! The kicker was that he was our H&S guy!

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