Welcome to 911UK
The only place for Porsche, 911uk is the definitive enthusiast and resource site for the Porsche 911.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so join up today for full access to the site and benefit from latest member offers.

Porsche Classifieds
Porsche Buyers Guides
Sell Your Porsche on 911uk
Create a Free Classified Advert
Search Ads
Classified Adverts FAQ
Trade Classified Information
Buyer & Seller Fraud Protection
Consumer Rights Act
Pre Purchase Inspection (PPI)
Porsche Car Sourcing
Porsche Cars Wanted
Official Porsche Centre Reviews
Model
Stock
Porsche 911
991 : 2011- 23
997 : 2004- 79
996 : 1997-2005 44
993 : 1993-1998 6
964 : 1989-1993 3
Carrera 3.2 : 1983-1989 0
Carrera SC : 1977-1983 2
930 Turbo : 1975-1989 0
Early 911 : 1964-1977 3
Porsche Other Models
Classic : 1950-1965 0
Boxster : 1997- 19
Cayman : 2005- 11
Cayenne : 2003- 5
Macan : 2014- 1
Panamera : 2009- 1
912-914-924-928-944-968 0
959 - CarreraGT - RaceCar 1
Car Parts For Sale & Wanted
Other Items For Sale & Wanted
Wheels Tyres For Sale & Wanted
Number Plates For Sale Wanted

Porsche Services
Porsche Body Shop Repair
Paint Protection & Wrapping
Porsche Classic Insurance
Porsche Classic Parts
Porsche Classic Restoration
Porsche Design Collection
Porsche Engine Gearbox Rebuild
Porsche Heritage & History
Porsche News
Porsche Picture Gallery
Win a New Porsche 911

Porsche Parts
Body Parts, Body Styling
Brakes, Clearance
Electrical, Exhausts
Engine Cooling, Engine Electrical
Engine Rebuild, Heating Cooling
Interior Incar, Lighting
Rubber Seals, Service Parts
Steering, Suspension
Transmission, Workshop Tools
Early 911, 911 - 930, 928 - 968
964 - 993, 996 - 997, Boxster
Cayman, Cayenne, Panamera

Porsche Model Range
911 [991] 2011-Current
Porsche 911 [991]
911 [997] 2004-Current
Porsche 911 [997]
911 [GT] GT1-GT2-GT3
Porsche 911 [GT]
911 [996] 1997-2005
Porsche 911 [996]
911 [993] 1993-1998
Porsche 911 [993]
911 [RS] RS-RSR
Porsche 911 [RS]
911 [964] 1989-1993
Porsche 911 [964]
911 3.2 1983-1989
Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera
911 SC 1977-1983
Porsche 911 SC
911 [Early] 1964-1977
Porsche 911 [Early]
Boxster & Cayman
Porsche Boxster & Cayman
Cayenne & Panamera
Porsche Cayenne & Panamera

911uk Site Partners

Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Message
tgdesign
Silverstone


Joined: 28 Apr 2016
Posts: 145
Location: Birmingham

2006 Porsche 997 Turbo

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Intercooler upgrade 997.1 turbo Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Looking what make of intercoolers are the best upgrade as there are a few to chose from.
Some more ££££ than others.

GT2RS
Do88
Wagner
Alpha
Forge
sharkwerks.
others

Question
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Long Beach


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 6121
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking at doing some measurements on intercooler performance. I would be very interested in seeing actual performance figures on any of these if you find them.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
JJT
Newbie


Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Posts: 10
Location: SPAIN


PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO88

Good value for money
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
tgdesign
Silverstone


Joined: 28 Apr 2016
Posts: 145
Location: Birmingham

2006 Porsche 997 Turbo

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JJT wrote:
DO88

Good value for money


There 3k I believe ??
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
JJT
Newbie


Joined: 13 Mar 2011
Posts: 10
Location: SPAIN


PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, more or less

https://www.do88.se/en/artiklar/hose-kits/porsche/9971/index.html

I still do not have real measurements.







 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
maph
Silverstone


Joined: 01 Feb 2017
Posts: 143



PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Intercooler upgrade 997.1 turbo Reply with quote

tgdesign wrote:
Hi Guys

Looking what make of intercoolers are the best upgrade as there are a few to chose from.
Some more ££££ than others.

GT2RS
Do88
Wagner
Alpha
Forge
sharkwerks.
others

Question


Champion Motorsport ones have a good rep, probably £3.5K though once you include shipping customs etc.......http://www.championmotorsport.com/product-p/cms-997t-int.htm
_________________
2012 997.2 Turbo S
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
isysman
Zolder


Joined: 22 Apr 2011
Posts: 5626
Location: Cheshire


PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I upgraded to OEM GT2RS intercoolers. My car has had a power upgrade as well and they are just fine. And I think they cost £1700-1800
_________________
911 GT2RS Build
987 Boxster S 3.4

 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Long Beach


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 6121
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isysman wrote:
I upgraded to OEM GT2RS intercoolers. My car has had a power upgrade as well and they are just fine. And I think they cost £1700-1800


I thought they were massively less than that. I have a bunch of data on intake temperatures when running these on repeated 0-70mph runs and also on some higher speed stuff if anybody is interested.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
apollokre1d
Sepang


Joined: 06 Nov 2012
Posts: 2765
Location: United Kingdom


PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
I thought they were massively less than that. I have a bunch of data on intake temperatures when running these on repeated 0-70mph runs and also on some higher speed stuff if anybody is interested.

MC


I'm interested, curious to know at what point they stop working optimally.

Cheers
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
New997buyer
Yas Marina


Joined: 17 Oct 2010
Posts: 8671



PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
MisterCorn wrote:
I thought they were massively less than that. I have a bunch of data on intake temperatures when running these on repeated 0-70mph runs and also on some higher speed stuff if anybody is interested.

MC


I'm interested, curious to know at what point they stop working optimally.

Cheers


+1 thumbsup
_________________
“Forum signatures with quotes from famous people is a form of pretentiousness beyond compare.” Abraham Lincoln

997.1 turbo
Ex 996.2 turbo, 996.1 C2
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Long Beach


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 6121
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a couple of shots of some data. The first one is from a few laps of Bruntingthorpe, not trying all that hard, but higher speeds than you would see in road driving. Note that speeds are in km/h for the first and mph for the second.



The second is from the a series of 15 back-to-back tests of accelerating to around 70mph and then stopping on the ABS.



You will see that the temperatures rise a lot more in the first part of the test and then drop after halfway. This test was done with a tail wind to start with, turning around half way through. The intercoolers are basically not getting as much airflow in the first half of the tests.

You can see a video of the second of these tests here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlapdLVEteI

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
e92
Monza


Joined: 25 Apr 2016
Posts: 171
Location: Reading


PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
Here are a couple of shots of some data. The first one is from a few laps of Bruntingthorpe, not trying all that hard, but higher speeds than you would see in road driving. Note that speeds are in km/h for the first and mph for the second.



The second is from the a series of 15 back-to-back tests of accelerating to around 70mph and then stopping on the ABS.



You will see that the temperatures rise a lot more in the first part of the test and then drop after halfway. This test was done with a tail wind to start with, turning around half way through. The intercoolers are basically not getting as much airflow in the first half of the tests.

You can see a video of the second of these tests here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlapdLVEteI

MC


Thats pretty interesting. Again like you I was looking at various intercoolers. Unfortunately its hard to find unbiased opinions. The gt2rs intercoolers appear to be the best point between cost and performance up to certain power levels. If you find the OEM manufacturer of the gt2rs intercoolers its even cheaper. I have a feeling some of the other intercoolers would be heavier too.
_________________
2001 996 Manual Turbo - Markski Remap, 964 RS LWFW, GT3 gearbox mount, Cargraphic Exhaust, 997 GT2 SSK, Forged DV, PSS10 Coilovers, GT3 front brakes, RSS Engine Mounts, Recaro seats, GT3 front control arms, GT2RS Intercoolers
2008 E92 M3 - Sold
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
apollokre1d
Sepang


Joined: 06 Nov 2012
Posts: 2765
Location: United Kingdom


PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing, on the video I found it really interesting how the intercooler temps consistently go up and down depending on wind direction.
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
isysman
Zolder


Joined: 22 Apr 2011
Posts: 5626
Location: Cheshire


PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:
isysman wrote:
I upgraded to OEM GT2RS intercoolers. My car has had a power upgrade as well and they are just fine. And I think they cost £1700-1800


I thought they were massively less than that. I have a bunch of data on intake temperatures when running these on repeated 0-70mph runs and also on some higher speed stuff if anybody is interested.

MC


Not sure. Maybe mine was a fitted price.
_________________
911 GT2RS Build
987 Boxster S 3.4

 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
AdeD
Imola


Joined: 10 Oct 2010
Posts: 793


2010 Porsche 997 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be looking to sell a pair if GT2RS intercoolers in the next few weeks... msg me if interested Smile
_________________
997.2 Turbo ES750 | 19" HRE's | Ohlins | H&R Front & Rear ARB's | GT2RS Carbon Seats | DesignLS Custom Retrim | DO88 Intercoolers, Y-Pipe & Inlet Hoses | IPD Plenum | WaterMeth Injection | ESMotor Equal Length Headers & 3" DeCat Exhaust
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
DynoMike
Barcelona


Joined: 25 May 2012
Posts: 1454
Location: The Cotswolds

2003 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting MC, the RS coolers look to perform very well indeed, I would have expected higher temps than those recorded under the conditions.

The brake temps were also eye opening, as there was a discrepancy between the left and right at one point, cross wind?

Do you know what the logging frequency was on the throttle position?

Keep this sort of stuff coming!
_________________
2003 996 Turbo
Previous toy 1974 Mini 1000
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
MisterCorn
Long Beach


Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Posts: 6121
Location: Nottingham, England

2004 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DynoMike wrote:
Very interesting MC, the RS coolers look to perform very well indeed, I would have expected higher temps than those recorded under the conditions.

The brake temps were also eye opening, as there was a discrepancy between the left and right at one point, cross wind?

Do you know what the logging frequency was on the throttle position?

Keep this sort of stuff coming!


The brake temperatures were front and rear, both on the offside. The fronts got hotter but were more affected by the change in the wind. It just goes to show the importance of consistency in testing.

I can send you the full data file if you like, you can download the software and have a play with it. I don't want to go too far OT.

MC
 
  
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
   
DynoMike
Barcelona


Joined: 25 May 2012
Posts: 1454
Location: The Cotswolds

2003 Porsche 996 Turbo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MisterCorn wrote:


The brake temperatures were front and rear, both on the offside. The fronts got hotter but were more affected by the change in the wind. It just goes to show the importance of consistency in testing.

I can send you the full data file if you like, you can download the software and have a play with it. I don't want to go too far OT.

MC


Ah, I see, my mistake. This only goes to show how well balanced porsche got the braking system on the car, your 6 pots notwithstanding.

Yes, it would be good to take a look at the file.

Sorry OP, back on topic now Thumb
_________________
2003 996 Turbo
Previous toy 1974 Mini 1000
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
rabbitstew
Montreal


Joined: 21 Aug 2015
Posts: 617



PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GT2RS intercoolers are widely regarded as a very good upgrade. I bought a set brand new last year for less than £600.

However as I had some money burning a hole in my pocket ive since bought the do88 big pack intercoolers, which came in at about £3500. Big difference in price. The do88 ones do have a slightly better flow than the GT2RS ones when you look at their graphs, but realistically unless your going to be running over 600bhp then the GT2RS ones are apparently fine.

I actually am selling the GT2RS ones I bought last year now as I never used them.
_________________
2008 997.1 Turbo Manual
2000 Ducati 996
1999 Yamaha R1
1994 Kawasaki ZXR750L2
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Bikeracer1098
Österreich


Joined: 28 Mar 2015
Posts: 981
Location: Camberley, Surrey


PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isysman wrote:
I upgraded to OEM GT2RS intercoolers. My car has had a power upgrade as well and they are just fine. And I think they cost £1700-1800


The 997.2 turbo OEM intercoolers are the same as th OEM intercoolers fitted to the 997.2 GT2RS however not sure whether they are priced differently.

Hope that helps
_________________
997.2 turbo
Stillen Supercharged Nissan Nismo
Aprilia RSV4 RF
 
  
View user's profile Send private message
   
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   All times are GMT - 12 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum