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TheCock
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:08 pm    Post subject: Exhaust mod advice pls Reply with quote

Hi all

Back in a 911 and this time its got water in it. Did a deal today on a 2010 997.2 manual Carrera, low miles, no sunroof, no rear wiper, simple and lovely.

Couple of questions;

I want to lower it (20mm) and wondered if anyone had comments on which springs are good etc.

I want to add some noise - have seen Carnewal and remember from my 993 days that he was popular. Thoughts on this or other options?

Any comments welcomed - even those which are rude and unnecessary/not on topic.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: More water cooled Reply with quote

TheCock wrote:
Hi all

Back in a 911 and this time its got water in it. Did a deal today on a 2010 997.2 manual Carrera, low miles, no sunroof, no rear wiper, simple and lovely.

Couple of questions;

I want to lower it (20mm) and wondered if anyone had comments on which springs are good etc.

I want to add some noise - have seen Carnewal and remember from my 993 days that he was popular. Thoughts on this or other options?

Any comments welcomed - even those which are rude and unnecessary/not on topic.

Thanks
TheC


Hi ***** (sorry..couldn't help myself Very Happy ),

Re springs, see the recent post re Techart springs which appear to be favoured over Eibach etc for mainly road use...

Re noise there are many options available ranging from the "gundo" hack and/or replacing the backbox with the H&S x pipes (search for both for details) through to the retrofit of PSE (which I have done) and many in between solutions including replacement exhausts (Tubi, Sharkwerks, Carnewal etc.). Your approach will depend largely on how much noise you want and the amount of readies available.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Systech has summed it up nicely.
Gen2 3.6 sits a bit highter than the 3.8 as stock so you would be ok using either techart , Eibach or H&M the Techarts would be the ones if you want 20mm drop on a non PASM car.
As the non PASM has already got a really nice ride set up when I did my non PASM gen1 I used Techart and found the ride remained just as nice.

re Sound the most common mod for the gen2 is the H&S rear muffler delete
then if you want more growl then options are get Gert to do the internal mod to your boxes or go for a gundo.
unless your budget will stretch to a full stainless sports exhaust valved or non valved .

also dont forget changing your stock airfilter to BMC sports filters will improve the induction note and make the car breath better less wheezy.

did I mention that Aqua is the best colour as blue is the new black Grin Grin and as your only in Broadstone we should meet up and chat Aqua 997.2s
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back (and to the dark side) Ben. Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back! Would love to see a pic of the Aqua Blue!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Absolutely the new best colour
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I know the one you've bought (Turbo 3.8 wheels) Looks great Thumb
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James M-S
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice car (same spec as mine) Thumb

Obviously exhaust note/engine note is a very personal thing. But the gen 2 c2 does sound like sewing machine as standard. (Especially from inside).

If you don’t have PSE I would gundo the back boxes before deciding on getting H&S bypass.

H&S alone not worth the money. (For the minimal gain on a non-PSE)

Gundo is cheaper and you may decide it’s fruity enough.

See attached vid of my c2 with/without h&s.

[IMG]http://rs201.pbsrc.com/albums/aa108/Tokyo_Dub/1ACE7622-4027-4E29-8CC1-0DC423B3D6A5.mp4?w=160&h=160&fit=clip[/IMG]

I have heard a forum members c2s with gundo & h&s (no PSE) in the flesh, and it was perfect IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the advice, was looking at a pse backdate but I think I’ll try the mods mentioned and see how I get on.

It is the car with the turbo 3.8 wheels.

Look forward to catching up on any run outs etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back Ben.

What's been filling the garage on your automotive tour of other cars for the last few years since the Vesuvius left?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Tubi exhaust on mine and I love it. Sounds tremendous when you open it up, but with control of your right foot sounds no louder than stock.
Good luck with the upgrades
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i recently had a Carnewal GT Exhaust fitted on my 997.2 4S. I've also have a Sharkwerkz bypass/x-pipe fitted. Vids below

https://youtu.be/fev97lWoLuU

and

https://youtu.be/Yn7aYRbJCgg
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobIpswichUK wrote:
Welcome back Ben.

What's been filling the garage on your automotive tour of other cars for the last few years since the Vesuvius left?


Thanks! Nice to be back in a 911. Weekend warriors post the 993 were a manual M3 which was a brilliant car, like a hooligan but brilliant, then the 968 Sport which was also fantastic, in fact I took that on Castle Coombe and nailed a supercharged Exige! The 968 was pretty much re built to new, so drove very nicely, handles really sweetly. Wanted something that would be more comfortable on longer road trips, was searching a 997 turbo but then saw this Gen2, nice and simple with nothing added, no sunroof, no rear wiper, no gadgets, manual box and low miles. It’s like a new car and the guy at Ashgood was not only a nice bloke (was there all afternoon) but he gave me a great price on the 968 (even before I talked about buying!) so the deal was very easy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich_r wrote:
i recently had a Carnewal GT Exhaust fitted on my 997.2 4S. I've also have a Sharkwerkz bypass/x-pipe fitted. Vids below

https://youtu.be/fev97lWoLuU

and

https://youtu.be/Yn7aYRbJCgg


That sounds great.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice guys have ordered a H&S X pipe to start with, also got a BMC filter and Techart springs and some spacers on route. Am going to use Brookspeed to fit it all - I've never used them but have read good things on here and having just spoken to Stuart I'm not worried, he knows his 911s!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re exhaust, is it worth doing Gundo first then bypass, and not the other way round?

I'm a bit reluctant having hacked done on my car while bypass will be a straight swap, and easily reversible.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straight swap is a term that should be used very loosely. Rusty it's and bolts can make what should be an hour or so of work, into many many hours and bucket loads of frustration
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheCock wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys have ordered a H&S X pipe to start with, also got a BMC filter and Techart springs and some spacers on route. Am going to use Brookspeed to fit it all - I've never used them but have read good things on here and having just spoken to Stuart I'm not worried, he knows his 911s!


Stuart will look after you mate he's a good chap and did all the work on my gen1 ,before James the mobile tech came on the scene locally. Still use Brookspeed for certain bits though. and they did 99% of the original upgrades on my gen2 as well Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
TheCock wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys have ordered a H&S X pipe to start with, also got a BMC filter and Techart springs and some spacers on route. Am going to use Brookspeed to fit it all - I've never used them but have read good things on here and having just spoken to Stuart I'm not worried, he knows his 911s!


Stuart will look after you mate he's a good chap and did all the work on my gen1 ,before James the mobile tech came on the scene locally. Still use Brookspeed for certain bits though. and they did 99% of the original upgrades on my gen2 as well Thumb


He seemed great on the phone. Looking forward to testing him out. Out of interest where did you/anyone else source the clamps? OPC? Also can you get stainless hardware?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son took this video on Sunday

(Very) cold start... note ice on windscreen Grin

Without , then with PSE

Fabspeed X pipe . Howls at 4K revs. Thumb

Definitely improved the tone, found gen2 much quieter than my gen1 with BMC and CAI


https://youtu.be/A4LaZMivlV0
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