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ChrisT70
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject: Recent pricing Reply with quote

looks like the recent price surge is encouraging some even more racey (hopeful) pricing, from private and trade sellers.

private sale 4S @ £122k
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-993/porsche-911-carrera-4-s/8166930

Hexagon- almways minty with a 2S @ £100k
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-993/porsche-911-carrera-s-coupe--993/8224125

Paragon £100k
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-993/porsche-911-carrera-4/8122701

no immediate signs of the slowdown as yet, on the lower mileage cars.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:26 pm    Post subject: 993 pricing Reply with quote

I really don't get the pricing at all just now. MattyR putting his car on the market for £32500 and looks like he would take an offer. Is the paragon car really worth another £ 70K. That's an awful big slush fund if you bought the cheap one! I often wonder how many actual punters are out there with the cash to splash on a toy with 150 000 miles on the clock Even I can see cars at dealers now for over a year. It's hard to get a value on the real market just now!
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found this to be a useful reference point:

https://cazana.com/uk

(Just type in a registration mark.)

And this from Hagerty:

https://www.hagertyinsurance.co.uk/classiccarvalue
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spread on 993 prices is massive with many Dealers just brainwashing the non enthusiasts with "last of the air cooled" & "investment" etc...

Build numbers will always come into play and the WB cars were fewer, hence the higher prices and sought by the investor in particular.

Mileage is a funny one and personally i'd rather buy a higher miles car with a more comprehensive maintenance record, rather than a low miler with missed annual services. Investors are obviously looking for ultra low miles but there seems to be a grey area inbetween. 50-60k miles seem too high for the investor and are usually priced too high for your average joe to buy and use as intended!

I think the 993 is still playing catch up to the G series 3.2 & 964. Look at 964 C2 Manual Coupe's with anything from 100 to 200k miles, they're fetching £50k+ and sell easily. Sure the 964 has the classic 911 silhouette but i'd rather take the 993's far superior suspension setup and sweeter 3.6 motor.

MattyR's motor is a bargain IMO. If that was a like for like 964 it would be £50k+.

I say grab a 993 while you can as I only see them going one way.

All IMO of course. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thesmithsUK wrote:
I've found this to be a useful reference point:

https://cazana.com/uk

(Just type in a registration mark.)



Useful reference but it estimates I’ve done 17k miles in the 993 since the last MOT (I presume they pick up mileage from MOT records ?) Floor
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
The spread on 993 prices is massive with many Dealers just brainwashing the non enthusiasts with "last of the air cooled" & "investment" etc...





Minus the Jonttt MkII rose tinted valuation goggles Rolling Eyes

Hand I'd hardly call it a price surge when they've not actually sold them and somewhat unrealistic. How much did they buy them in at? Smoke and mirrors Bandit

Well done chum the first 993 valuation thread of 2018 Thumb One of many I expect Floor
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea the forum was a bit dead tbh Floor
£122k on a private car with no come backs is hopeful given the traders selling cars cheaper.

I'm tempted to jump back in with a cheeky 25bags offer on the other as savings rates are crap at present and a 993 isn't losing value anytime soon....

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found the opposite - I'm toying with the idea of picking up a 912, 964 or a 993 as a replacement for the 996t and I've had a lot of private sellers offering cars at much lower than what the market would have you believe they are. I didn't get this level of interest last year when I was window shopping.

I appreciate I'm looking at the lowest end of the market, and you've linked the highest, but thought I'd add my experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay. wrote:
I've found the opposite - I'm toying with the idea of picking up a 912, 964 or a 993 as a replacement for the 996t and I've had a lot of private sellers offering cars at much lower than what the market would have you believe they are. I didn't get this level of interest last year when I was window shopping.

I appreciate I'm looking at the lowest end of the market, and you've linked the highest, but thought I'd add my experience.


I see what you did there... Grin

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s a stinky old bait but it might just work. Grin
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.... If you offer a carrot ..... isn't it followed by donkeys? ........ Question

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madalaa wrote:
.... If you offer a carrot ..... isn't it followed by donkeys? ........ Question

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If you insist. I'm sure I see a Donkey somewhere...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
madalaa wrote:
.... If you offer a carrot ..... isn't it followed by donkeys? ........ Question

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If you insist. I'm sure I see a Donkey somewhere...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely the more lithe NB and looks great in Black with the Tan Interior. Thumb

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thesmithsUK wrote:
I've found this to be a useful reference point:

https://cazana.com/uk

(Just type in a registration mark.)


Thanks for that Thumb
Seems on the money, type in Matys Reg
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