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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Advice - Double Din upgrade Reply with quote

Happy New Year All!

I appreciate this has been covered many time before, but I can't seem to find the information I need.

The car's in having a few essentials carried out. Whilst it's in I'm shopping for some upgrades, one being replacing the hideous 'Max Power' stereo for an apple play double din.

I appreciate I need to relocate the climate to the bottom, but do I need to loose the cup holders as I can't seem to find a fascia that allows to retain the cup holder - or do I need to sacrifice this?

Any links gratefully appreciated....

Here's what I have currently:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cup holders can stay, it's just the single din and the climate control. I'm currently looking at swapping mine too.........but not for one of those. I'm on a seriously low budget and have been looking at the xtrons as I've heard good reviews and are fully loaded with what I want from it.

Here's my budget range: http://xtrons.co.uk/head-units/double-din-car-stereo.html?p=3

and possibly this or better:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Cup holders can stay, it's just the single din and the climate control. I'm currently looking at swapping mine too.........but not for one of those. I'm on a seriously low budget and have been looking at the xtrons as I've heard good reviews and are fully loaded with what I want from it.

Here's my budget range: http://xtrons.co.uk/head-units/double-din-car-stereo.html?p=3


Thanks, any links for a fascia kit please. I seem to be able to only find ones for use without cup holders
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not got that far. Will possibly make my own on my CNC or buy something similar and mod it if required.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen this: http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=847165
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Have you seen this: http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=847165


Thanks for that, the extron looks decent. This seems to suggest mounting the fascia upside down should mean I'll be able to retain the cup holders Mr. Green
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1138657&highlight=#1138657

I'll update once installed....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going from factory single DIN to double DIN, then I believe that you'll need to cut some metalwork out inside the dash. This put me off Sad

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, found the trim for the lower climate.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a few xtrons units on various previous cars, all windows ce based, been good generally, I've put igo8 nav on them as found it the best,
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The facia kit from ebay or whoever you like for 996 and double din works with gin 1 and 2 cars, it going in upside-down in Gen2 and you keep your cup holders. I bought one for stuff all from ebay, minimal kit and job done.

As you have discovered, there is a porsche part to replace the trim when you move the AC controls to the lower shelf, is cheap and does the trick

A few thoughts

1. The Chinese Win CE (xtronics) stuff was good in its day, now very, very dated
2. CarPlay is very good, and various firms make various models, go for it if you like
3. I have just put an Android unit in my Mercedes and will pull out a very High Spec Kenwood unit and put in an android unit in the 996. Its just that much better having spotify and google maps and voice activation in the dash

Also, its well worth the effort Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yo_clarkie wrote:
The facia kit from ebay or whoever you like for 996 and double din works with gin 1 and 2 cars, it going in upside-down in Gen2 and you keep your cup holders. I bought one for stuff all from ebay, minimal kit and job done.

As you have discovered, there is a porsche part to replace the trim when you move the AC controls to the lower shelf, is cheap and does the trick

A few thoughts

1. The Chinese Win CE (xtronics) stuff was good in its day, now very, very dated
2. CarPlay is very good, and various firms make various models, go for it if you like
3. I have just put an Android unit in my Mercedes and will pull out a very High Spec Kenwood unit and put in an android unit in the 996. Its just that much better having spotify and google maps and voice activation in the dash

Also, its well worth the effort Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yo_clarkie wrote:

1. The Chinese Win CE (xtronics) stuff was good in its day, now very, very dated


Have you seen the latest xtrons stuff? Many of them run on the latest android and have all the options other stuff on the market has. Is it still the case they're out dated?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
yo_clarkie wrote:

1. The Chinese Win CE (xtronics) stuff was good in its day, now very, very dated


Have you seen the latest xtrons stuff? Many of them run on the latest android and have all the options other stuff on the market has. Is it still the case they're out dated?


android ocracore ones good, its not the latest android IMHO, ice-cream sandwich at best but ok. Avoid Win CE is my point. Brand for china knock off stuff fairly irrelevant too, aliexpress is your friend.

my merc van has:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HD-9-Inch-Stereo-1024X600-Android-5-1-Quad-Core-Car-DVD-Player-GPS-For-Mercedes/32767209422.html

as an example
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon did a good DD instal thread for 996 seem to remember the fascia has to go in upside down to fit. Thumb

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=111091&highlight=head+unit
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Advice - Double Din upgrade Reply with quote

toddy2 wrote:
Happy New Year All!

I appreciate this has been covered many time before, but I can't seem to find the information I need.

The car's in having a few essentials carried out. Whilst it's in I'm shopping for some upgrades, one being replacing the hideous 'Max Power' stereo for an apple play double din.

I appreciate I need to relocate the climate to the bottom, but do I need to loose the cup holders as I can't seem to find a fascia that allows to retain the cup holder - or do I need to sacrifice this?

Any links gratefully appreciated....

Here's what I have currently:


Hi,

Here's what I used:-
http://www.metraonline.com/part/99-9605B

Then bought an Alpine Double din with Apple Carplay... it's awesome! On 3 sim plan so can use Unlimited Deezer, Maps etc etc

It's as good if not better than a modern 991 OEM setup. TBH the Apple maps with live traffic etc is better than OEM in my experience (brother has a 991) we both prefer the Apple Maps Nav.

I didn't have the confidence to do it properly myself so had a specialist do it for £150... absolute bargain. The guys smiled at the end, he said it was fun but not straightforward. Microphone is by the rear view mirror and USB in the arm rest box.

Neat tidy and imo not too offensive for non OEM look. I use the car everyday and it makes an older car as functional as any modern car..

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice - Double Din upgrade Reply with quote

Excellent, thanks for sharing that's just the part I need.

Hi,

Here's what I used:-
http://www.metraonline.com/part/99-9605B

Then bought an Alpine Double din with Apple Carplay... it's awesome! On 3 sim plan so can use Unlimited Deezer, Maps etc etc

It's as good if not better than a modern 991 OEM setup. TBH the Apple maps with live traffic etc is better than OEM in my experience (brother has a 991) we both prefer the Apple Maps Nav.

I didn't have the confidence to do it properly myself so had a specialist do it for £150... absolute bargain. The guys smiled at the end, he said it was fun but not straightforward. Microphone is by the rear view mirror and USB in the arm rest box.

Neat tidy and imo not too offensive for non OEM look. I use the car everyday and it makes an older car as functional as any modern car..

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice - Double Din upgrade Reply with quote

toddy2 wrote:


Then bought an Alpine Double din with Apple Carplay... it's awesome! On 3 sim plan so can use Unlimited Deezer, Maps etc etc

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Which alpine unit did you go for?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shop around as these Android head units are very common and re-badged.

So here's one - Android 7.1 and has a separate SW output too.. (if that's a requirement for you, it would be for me)

Available through their own site HERE or though Amazon.

I'd have to hear one first... though having said that, you can barely hear any "hifi" above 50mph in my car, lol.. and the generic digital amplifier chips coming out of China are perfectly adequate for normal listening...
Lots of functionality on these units, lots of choices for the aps too - you don't like the radio interface? download another one! You can't do that with an Alpine... The DAB would be a must for me and the OBD would be fun too.
And spotify, BBC iPlayer all built in too? That would be handy...
If your provider allows tethering / hotspot then you can run it all through your phone's 3/4G connection as well....

If you do get one, I think there are lots of people that would to read your review and opinions

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice - Double Din upgrade Reply with quote

lofi wrote:
toddy2 wrote:


Then bought an Alpine Double din with Apple Carplay... it's awesome! On 3 sim plan so can use Unlimited Deezer, Maps etc etc

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Which alpine unit did you go for?


Alpine iLX-107 Mr. Green

Bose already in the car, sounds great and the connectivity is brilliant. Sound quality very good and the phone works well. You can be streaming music, use the Nav and ask Siri what the weathers like! It's reliable and just what I wanted to make the C4s a useable / practical modern Classic.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@BK911 & @Toddy2

From the pics, it looks like that metra fascia kit doesn't have the lip at the lower/upper edge which some of the others do.

Please can you confirm if this is the case, & which retailer you ordered yours from?

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