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Boxster query....I know I am in the wrong place

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Hi Guys,

Thinking of getting the missus a 55 reg 987 Boxster.
It has 67K miles and looks to be in pretty good condition, the only problem is the service history Surprised
The car belonged to the father of the family and he passed away, so the car in 2008 and 12k miles did not get used much and was SORN for a couple of years. The next service was in 2014 with 30K miles done.

So, there is a gap of 6 years between servicing and approx 18K miles!

The service at 2014 and those after have not been with OPC either!!

The car has done 36K since the laid up period.

The only work done on the car when it wasn't being used much was a battery and a trickle charger for obvious reasons.

The car is advertised at £8000 and available for £7250, that was prior to him telling me about the gap he has just discovered (he is selling for a friend).

It may come a bit cheaper, but is it worth the risk??

Not sure what the manual states about service intervals?? and the affect it may have when we come to sell it on??

Also, that stale oil sat in the sump for 6 years, will it have caused any damage? bore scoring etc??

Really looking for some advice as I know nothing about Boxsters

Please help??
 
I would post up the question on Boxa.net as you will find more 987 owners with experience on there :thumb:
 
You haven't mentioned which engine the car has but it seems to have had honest if sparing ownership. If you compare this with many that have had many owners and little care it would seem a fair proposition. Mileage and price seem reasonable but ultimately it is your risk/ choice.
 
Endex said:
You haven't mentioned which engine the car has but it seems to have had honest if sparing ownership. If you compare this with many that have had many owners and little care it would seem a fair proposition. Mileage and price seem reasonable but ultimately it is your risk/ choice.
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It's the 2.7 motor. The car has been in the same family for 3 owners, father, mother then daughter, as they didn't want to sell it because it belonged to the father who passed away...apparently.
Sounds genuine, but should it be cheaper as it may have a stigma like a CAT D car?

I'll see what the Boxster experts say once I get onto their forum :thumb: :dont know:
 
jonttt said:
I would post up the question on Boxa.net as you will find more 987 owners with experience on there :thumb:
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Trying to register onto their website now, cheers :thumb:
 
The only risk IMO is at resale time when the hole in history is spotted. This will be less and less of a problem as you pile the miles on it. If you are buying to flip it on in a year then think carefully, otherwise crack on.

The engine will be fine. Some modern cars have longer than 18k service intervals. Hell I know of people that haven't changed the oil on bangers for over 50k miles. It sounds like mother and daughter haven't thrapped the life out of it on track for those 18k miles.
 
I can never understand how someone can drive a car for years when everytime they start it a message comes up service overdue
 
wasz said:
The only risk IMO is at resale time when the hole in history is spotted. This will be less and less of a problem as you pile the miles on it. If you are buying to flip it on in a year then think carefully, otherwise crack on.

The engine will be fine. Some modern cars have longer than 18k service intervals. Hell I know of people that haven't changed the oil on bangers for over 50k miles. It sounds like mother and daughter haven't thrapped the life out of it on track for those 18k miles.
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:agree:

The lack of "full service history" is the only issue when you come to sell but shouldn't really be a massive issue in a few years time at this price point. A few missed services aren't going to be catastrophic, most of it is checking and ticking boxes anyway. Use it as a bargaining tool.

It will be a 'gen 1' car so the lottery of bore scoring is a theoretical issue, although apparently the 2.7 is much less prone to it than the 3.4 so it's not something that I would be particularly concerned about, especially if it has a manual gearbox. If you are worried about it you can have a specialist conduct a borescope inspection prior to purchase. For an additional couple of hundred quid it's probably worth getting an OPC 111(?) point check or specialist to check the car over to put your mind at rest about general condition.

I had a 'gen 1' 987 Cayman S which is supposed to be the main culprit for 987 bore scoring. It was absolutely fine, didn't use a drop of oil in four years of ownership. It's probably a small percentage of cars that have issues and an even smaller percentage of those will be 2.7s.
 
Bore scoring is not an issue on the 2.7. Ims failure is the only slight risk with these engines.
The lack of history will always affect its value to a degree.
At this age spec, colour and mileage is what sells cars.
What mileage is it currently on and what is the colour and spec?
If in a decent combo the prices quoted above i.e 7250 sounds right.
I would prob buy it!!
 
jimmy p said:
Bore scoring is not an issue on the 2.7. Ims failure is the only slight risk with these engines.
The lack of history will always affect its value to a degree.
At this age spec, colour and mileage is what sells cars.
What mileage is it currently on and what is the colour and spec?
If in a decent combo the prices quoted above i.e 7250 sounds right.
I would prob buy it!!
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It's a black car, with heated leather seats, can't see any other extras other than the heated leather :dont know:

It looks clean enough in the photos, been kept a large part of its life under a Porsche external quality cover, so I am expecting some marking to the paint; of course it will show more on black!

Think I'll try to chip a bit off the price, and if he shifts, then I'll go to see it :thumb: :thumb:
 
jimmy p said:
Bore scoring is not an issue on the 2.7. Ims failure is the only slight risk with these engines.
The lack of history will always affect its value to a degree.
At this age spec, colour and mileage is what sells cars.
What mileage is it currently on and what is the colour and spec?
If in a decent combo the prices quoted above i.e 7250 sounds right.
I would prob buy it!!
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If I decide to have a look and like it, then will feel better with a PPI, any idea how much my OPC will charge?
 
mark pearce said:
I can never understand how someone can drive a car for years when everytime they start it a message comes up service overdue
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Madness I know, but apparently the local grease monkey said that it didn't need a service until it had done 20k!! He obviously had no idea of the time intervals!!
 
madge said:
wasz said:
The only risk IMO is at resale time when the hole in history is spotted. This will be less and less of a problem as you pile the miles on it. If you are buying to flip it on in a year then think carefully, otherwise crack on.

The engine will be fine. Some modern cars have longer than 18k service intervals. Hell I know of people that haven't changed the oil on bangers for over 50k miles. It sounds like mother and daughter haven't thrapped the life out of it on track for those 18k miles.
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:agree:

The lack of "full service history" is the only issue when you come to sell but shouldn't really be a massive issue in a few years time at this price point. A few missed services aren't going to be catastrophic, most of it is checking and ticking boxes anyway. Use it as a bargaining tool.

It will be a 'gen 1' car so the lottery of bore scoring is a theoretical issue, although apparently the 2.7 is much less prone to it than the 3.4 so it's not something that I would be particularly concerned about, especially if it has a manual gearbox. If you are worried about it you can have a specialist conduct a borescope inspection prior to purchase. For an additional couple of hundred quid it's probably worth getting an OPC 111(?) point check or specialist to check the car over to put your mind at rest about general condition.

I had a 'gen 1' 987 Cayman S which is supposed to be the main culprit for 987 bore scoring. It was absolutely fine, didn't use a drop of oil in four years of ownership. It's probably a small percentage of cars that have issues and an even smaller percentage of those will be 2.7s.
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Let's see how the negotiating goes :thumb:
 
The price remained fixed at £7,250, so I got cold feet and decided that I would rather spend an extra £750 to get one with a decent history!

Thanks for all the advice, it certainly helped me to make the ultimate decision :thumb:
 
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