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jnwright71
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:09 am    Post subject: Bremi ignition coils Reply with quote

Hi All,

I’ll soon be looking to replace all the coils on my 987 as the pre-purchase inspection advised that a couple had started to crack. I’ve just been on the ECP website and they list two brands, Bremi (Brembo Max) and Beru.

I know that Beru is the OE supplier, but the Bremi version is £16 cheaper per unit, so £96 cheaper overal (before the usual ECP 30% off), so worth some consideration. Has anyone used Bremi and been happy with the results ?

Cheers, Jamesj
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 years and 20k miles ago I fitted eurocarparts cheaper brand coils to my 996. Not sure what brand they were.

Still running great!


I once fitted a beru coil to a 1.4 golf that failed within a month. They replaced it but it was annoying.

PS check carparts4less, its eurocarparts but cheaper.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks wasz.

I'll also check out the alternative website. I tend to always stick to OE or known OE suppliers, but there is such a differential here on a part that is fairly simple and Bremi appear to be a well respected specialist.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im afraid i cant comment on the Bremi but at work we always fit Beru and to the best of my knowledge have never had a problem with them and we are talking hundreds and moving into the thousands since ive been there .
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my Beru from Design 911, they had a deal on 6. They have changed the design slightly to make them more impervious to corrosion which seems to be the main Achilles heel in them.
The other good price was Autodoc but they do take 3/4 days to turn up.
Whenever possible use OEM otherwise people will think you've been scrimping and if you've done it on this where else have you done it!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

Thanks for the feedback, good points. Looks like I’ll stick to Beru and buy a set when there is a deal on.


Thanks, James
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a deal on with Autodoc at present, they work out at £25.17 each, which is cheaper than Design 911's price.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, all ordered Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Autodoc have two different Beru coils - one much more expensive than the other. Anyone know what the difference is?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, looking on the Beru website I can see the more expensive Beru coils on Autodoc are the new design and the cheaper ones are the old design.

Question is, will the new design last 30 per cent longer to justify the price? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original problem was the shaft the bolts go through was not sealed ( water tight ) to the coil body which allowed water to corrode the sleeve and then the inner iron coil .

This was fixed by Beru early on and their after markets ones where sealed at that point.

Porsche seemed to have waited untill every possible car was out of warrenty (upto 10 years from new ) then had a new coil designed and probably told Beru to stop making the old ones which is why its hard to buy them now .

I have no idear why its twice the size but it is sealed at the weak point ( which Beru had done years before ) .

The Beru redesigned and the new one should no longer suffer corrosion and in theory last forever .. well .. untill it fails from another fault anyways .

Oh .. and the new fatter coil not only can be a bitch to fit it can also foul the heat sheild on several models .. sigh .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.

Just to clarify, does this mean the cheaper Beru items I bought will have the improved seals?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures below .. the new type and you can see where it has been sealed verses the old type .

The Beru old type but NOT from Porsche will be sealed the same as the new type .
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coils on most cars these days are a consumable anyway. My wifes old 06 golf munched through 2 sets in 80k miles.

The old design lasted well enough tbh, I rather suspect the redesign was for to make them cheaper make / fewer variations needed.

The "old style" genuine coils I took off my 996 had cracked bodies (but still worked), the bolt holes were fine.

Easy to inspect and change if needed every time you do the plugs.

In fact I just changed my plugs at the weekend, and my CP4L cheapies looked fine, no corrosion of bolt holes and no cracks after 20k all weather miles so they went back in.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had 4 new Beru's fitted on my 997.1 C4S yesterday.
They were £31.25 each + VAT from my local Indy but the benefit is that they took the car in immediately (I had it recovered) and did the work straight away even though they had bigger jobs on the ramp. I was back on the road overnight, so Kudos to them. A few quid more than buying on-line and waiting for them but with the convenience of a quick turnaround. Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've purchased 6 of the Bremi coils from ECP today, using their 35% discount code, total £105 delivered. If the photo on the website is anything to go by, they are of the older design with shorter bolts, so won't foul the heat shields of this is what turns up.

I'm changing these & the plugs as preventative maintenance.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth hearing about your coils John, that was good work from your local indy, worth naming on here to allow the reputation to be properly establshed?

Cheers, Keith.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demort wrote:
The original problem was the shaft the bolts go through was not sealed ( water tight ) to the coil body which allowed water to corrode the sleeve and then the inner iron coil .

This was fixed by Beru early on and their after markets ones where sealed at that point.

Porsche seemed to have waited untill every possible car was out of warrenty (upto 10 years from new ) then had a new coil designed and probably told Beru to stop making the old ones which is why its hard to buy them now .

I have no idear why its twice the size but it is sealed at the weak point ( which Beru had done years before ) .

The Beru redesigned and the new one should no longer suffer corrosion and in theory last forever .. well .. untill it fails from another fault anyways .

Oh .. and the new fatter coil not only can be a bitch to fit it can also foul the heat sheild on several models .. sigh .


The Porsche ones are now BorgWarner - I know as I just bought a set after being told they'd fit under the heat/water shields of my 996. They don't!

So I have solved the problem by getting some 15mm spacers made up for the shields and replacing the fixings with longer (ti as I'm fed up with corroded/snapping fasteners) ones.
 
  
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