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DrJimBone
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: New 718 GTS Reply with quote

The new GTS models are sticking with the 4-pot turbo...

https://jalopnik.com/the-365-hp-porsche-718-gts-has-more-power-more-alcanta-1819635805

Sub 4 second 0-60 with the PDK though! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that article is right, only a 15 bhp increase over the S is a little disappointing.

It will be interesting to see the pricing as well.

As the S is a very fine car, with only that small gain in bhp and no six-pot as first rumoured.......the GTS might not be worth the premium over the S Dont know

However, I am pretty sure demand will outstrip availability regardless.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Flat-4 Reply with quote

Everyone was hoping for a six pot I know, but I will have to reserve judgement until I have heard the four turbo driven in anger.

The first car I bought was an Alfa Romeo 33 Veloce with a 1.7 flat-4 and it sounded awesome (to my 17 year old ears). Maybe they have worked their magic on this one and it sounds similarly gruff (and not too much like a Scooby)
Dont know
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was waiting to see if this might tempt me in the future but it doubt it will unless the 'bundle' saving over a well spec'ed S model is significant. I doubt it though and could live without the alcantara and prefer the sport-tex stuff anyway. Will have to compare some builds with a saved build from when I nearly pulled the trigger.

The power increase is a little bit of a joke in my opinion but I guess any more and they are in 911 territory. The wheels are a disappointment, they could have at least come up with a new design that was exclusive to the GTS model.

The script on the videos is dire...not one of Porsche's greatest marketing decisions in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:55 pm    Post subject: But... Reply with quote

However, it will have a GTS badge on the back. It will sell just because of that.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a fully loaded 718 boxster S for 3 days and was shocked by the engine, yes its fast but compared to the 6 its crap. Most buyers won't realise this though but its something that will be lost unless your in the "know" Grin

From the EVO review "drawing comparisons with that car’s melodious flat-six engine is perhaps unwise" Thumb

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/19783/porsche-718-gts-boxster-and-cayman-twins-revealed

Looks like VTS is standard on the 718 GTS though (it was not on the 981 GTS)

I'm not surprised the GTS is a 4, I would have been shocked if it was a 6, just not viable for porsche and it would have been them admitting something very publicly. The GTS has always been a marginal power gain, its more about the sum of the parts and the recipe has always worked to date (I exclude the KN GTS Rolling Eyes )

Now the 718 GT4 will be an interesting dilemma for Porsche though Dont know

Edit: just specced a 718 BGTS up as close to the spec as mine as possible and its £70.5k so about right for the across the board price rise last year. No External GTS pack option though (gloss black parts instead of matt) which was one of the best GTS options (often ignored).

ps they still call it "dual climate" option for erm ... Climate control implying it comes with "climate" as standard which it does not Hand
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
I had a fully loaded 718 boxster S for 3 days and was shocked by the engine, yes its fast but compared to the 6 its crap. Most buyers won't realise this though but its something that will be lost unless your in the "know" Grin


Hand The 'pea' green 718s I heard knocking about Alderley Edge the other week sounded fantastic. Whether this was the 'standard' PSE or some upgraded exhaust unit I'm not sure Dont know If they all sound like that with PSE I'd have one Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See point proven Floor

I should have clarified "........ sounded crap compared to a 981" Wink

Ps I did not enjoy the comparable power delivery either but I guess that's because I feel the same way about any turbo v na and I'm gonna enjoy that for as long as I can before all cars are turbo hybrids Judge

Disclaimer : if new car is a must / top priority I'm sure the 718 GTS will be great Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:

Disclaimer : if new car is a must / top priority I'm sure the 718 GTS will be great Thumb


Hand Not for me as I refuse to pay the new VED rates so I'd want a pre April 718 so I'm excluded from the GTS Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If these had the 981 flat 6 i would buy one, as it is I"m thinking of buying a Peridot green Cayman R instead. Just not sure on manual or PDK.

I know everyone says manual but my C4S is manual and ifancy the PDK to go with it maybe.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PTV and PCM both standard now! About £70/1 gets a 982 very close to my 981 spec. Not sure why they opted for a softer front rather than an evolution of the dramatic nose on the 981. Still looks quite good though and will no doubt be super quick. I'm liking the gloss back that can be specced for door handles, spoiler etc. Only one thing really lets it down - no flat six Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally the car Agts comes with a pack that if you speccd a Boxster S to the same level it would be more than the GTS.

Still sounds shyite.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, there really is no comparison to this review which says it all really worship


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
Wow, there really is no comparison to this review which says it all really worship


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This is a great video, I remember when it came out.

I almost pulled the trigger on a 981 purchase today. Not a GTS but a very nice spec S. But they wouldn’t give me enough on the trade in. Annoying that cars sell based on spec and yet when they offer money on trade in it seems they offer ‘book price’ and spec is ignored. I don’t have time to sell my car before I go back to work so it looks like I’ll miss this one (back to work Wednesday).

Car is half the price of a GTS
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