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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:25 am    Post subject: My worst fears Reply with quote

Well I had found my 911, 2007 manual C4S in grey with a few toys payed about £30k for it, part of the deal I asked for the bore to be checked and......
 



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To fair to the garage they gave me my money back, my search continues....
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you seen this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708318846841?atmobcid=soc3
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nooo Alex don't show him that one!!!

I'm just not sure if I want c4 tbh but ticks every other box for my search.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, saw that
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good that you got your money back. Hats off to the dealer for not trying to get out of that.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good dealer!!! On this occasion instead of name and shame I believe it would be only right to name and praise.

What's the car and Registration so no one else buys it in good faith. Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaychief wrote:
Thanks, saw that


What's your thoughts on it?

I'm just not sure I want a 4wd one.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Have you seen this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708318846841?atmobcid=soc3


Looks pretty good, except for the those wheels Yuk

Factor in the cost for a quality refurbishment by Chris @Exel and it should be a nice car, with little left to go wrong in the short term. Price is a little strong for a private sale IMHO, should be negotiable.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyC911 wrote:
alex yates wrote:
Have you seen this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708318846841?atmobcid=soc3


Looks pretty good, except for the those wheels Yuk

Factor in the cost for a quality refurbishment by Chris @Exel and it should be a nice car, with little left to go wrong in the short term. Price is a little strong for a private sale IMHO, should be negotiable.


Bargain for the work that's been done future proofing it. The wheels are a very minor detail compared to the 6-pack & IMS on the engine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After this I am just going to wait for RSJ to get one, there cars all seem to have a clean bill health, with decent warranty
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
TonyC911 wrote:
alex yates wrote:
Have you seen this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708318846841?atmobcid=soc3


Looks pretty good, except for the those wheels Yuk

Factor in the cost for a quality refurbishment by Chris @Exel and it should be a nice car, with little left to go wrong in the short term. Price is a little strong for a private sale IMHO, should be negotiable.


Bargain for the work that's been done future proofing it. The wheels are a very minor detail compared to the 6-pack & IMS on the engine.



Agree with Alex on this , Wheels are such a minor thing it shouldn't even come into the equation . Paint them ,change them whatever you want to do. the important things are the things to be considering Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaychief wrote:
After this I am just going to wait for RSJ to get one, there cars all seem to have a clean bill health, with decent warranty



Gotta keep in mind though that any 997.1 may start scoring bores at any time, so even buying the most immaculate low mileage well-kept garage queen is no guarantee of what's round the corner.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
TonyC911 wrote:
alex yates wrote:
Have you seen this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708318846841?atmobcid=soc3


Looks pretty good, except for the those wheels Yuk

Factor in the cost for a quality refurbishment by Chris @Exel and it should be a nice car, with little left to go wrong in the short term. Price is a little strong for a private sale IMHO, should be negotiable.


Bargain for the work that's been done future proofing it. The wheels are a very minor detail compared to the 6-pack & IMS on the engine.


Agreed.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Porsche mechanics that I’ve spoke today both, from independent Porsche and Porsche official garage they have said it’s mostly down to the driver causing the bore score of the engine......
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaychief wrote:
From the Porsche mechanics that I’ve spoke today both, from independent Porsche and Porsche official garage they have said it’s mostly down to the driver causing the bore score of the engine......


It is........but did they tell you how and why? It's not just down to caning the car cold. Did they also tell you it's more common in tiptronics as they set off in 2nd gear and the torque exerted on the engine at low revs doesn't half cause some damage. There's umpteen different scenarios that accelerate the process.

I'll bet 99% of Porsche drivers don't know how it's caused.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaychief wrote:
From the Porsche mechanics that I’ve spoke today both, from independent Porsche and Porsche official garage they have said it’s mostly down to the driver causing the bore score of the engine......


Yes if they had never started or driven them, they would be fine.
Whilst there is some responsibility on the drivers, I imagine many of those drivers went on to a gen 2 without altering their driving technique, yet the gen 2, so far, appears to have far fewer issues.

Could it be that Porsche engineering actually got it a little wrong with the 1st generation?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
jaychief wrote:
From the Porsche mechanics that I’ve spoke today both, from independent Porsche and Porsche official garage they have said it’s mostly down to the driver causing the bore score of the engine......


It is........but did they tell you how and why? It's not just down to caning the car cold. Did they also tell you it's more common in tiptronics as they set off in 2nd gear and the torque exerted on the engine at low revs doesn't half cause some damage. There's umpteen different scenarios that accelerate the process.

I'll bet 99% of Porsche drivers don't know how it's caused.


The fact that its more prevalent in 3.8 than 3.6 cars and as Alex says more common in Tips than manuals can't mean its all down to the driver but I struggle with why as its in relatively low numbers of cars so why some and not others is what puzzles me. you would think that anyone who buys a 3.6 tip is not likely to be someone who canes it but I have even heard of examples of this that are scored very very few I admit but still some. and why have the hundreds of thousands of others on the road not suffered with scoring. Question Dont know
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a post on a Facebook page about the 3.8's and borescoring the general consensus was just to get it checked and not worry about it.

Yes it happens but it was great to see there was more positive comment v's negative. Always someone with a gen 2 to chip in though.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If aimed at me, prior to my gen 2, I had a gen 1.....

If I didn't love these cars I wouldn't have had another.
 
  
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