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Jcx
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2010 Porsche 997 Turbo

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: DSC Sport V1 Plug and Play PASM upgrade Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

My DSC Sport V1 Plug and Play PASM upgrade just landed this morning. It installed in a few minutes - it truly is plug 'n play - and then i went back to work.

So i have yet to drive it... tomorrow maybe.

Anyone got one? What do you think? Anyone ordered one and got rid of it sharpish for any reason?

I plan to write-up my expereinces in Total 911 column in Issue 160 which is due out in early December.

Naturally i will update you guys too Wink

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FredGT3
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt anyone would get rid of it mate, as you know I think it transformed my 997 GTS and its done wonders for the 991 GT3.

I hope you're bringing it to the pheasant on Wednesday.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FredGT3 wrote:
I doubt anyone would get rid of it mate, as you know I think it transformed my 997 GTS and its done wonders for the 991 GT3.

I hope you're bringing it to the pheasant on Wednesday.

Regards
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Everyone has their reasons Fred Wink

And yes, i do hope to rumble along with my 'upgraded' motor!

Look forward to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does it actually do?
 
  
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FredGT3
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.

On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.

The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FredGT3 wrote:
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.

On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.

The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.

Regards
Fred


Pop Corn Pop Corn what sort of money are these units. Thumb
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Jcx
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil 997 wrote:
FredGT3 wrote:
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.

On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.

The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.

Regards
Fred


Pop Corn Pop Corn what sort of money are these units. Thumb


http://www.dscsport.com/porsche/#997
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jcx wrote:
Phil 997 wrote:
FredGT3 wrote:
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.

On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.

The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.

Regards
Fred


Pop Corn Pop Corn what sort of money are these units. Thumb


http://www.dscsport.com/porsche/#997


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are the main dealer for these in the U.K.

http://www.nineexcellence.com/upgrades/suspension/pasmupgrades.html

There is also a further 5% off those prices at the moment.

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Phil 997
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

996ttalot wrote:
We are the main dealer for these in the U.K.

http://www.nineexcellence.com/upgrades/suspension/pasmupgrades.html

There is also a further 5% off those prices at the moment.

Ken


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DSC unit was the first thing I added to my 997 turbo, literally days after buying the car, as I just found the car un-driveable on my local roads. Ridiculously bouncy in normal mode and rock solid in sport.

I was a bit apprehensive about the price as its not cheap, but it was well worth it as it totally transformed the car. Both modes are very useable on the bendy B roads where I live.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

996ttalot wrote:
We are the main dealer for these in the U.K.

http://www.nineexcellence.com/upgrades/suspension/pasmupgrades.html

There is also a further 5% off those prices at the moment.

Ken


I highly recommend the DSC unit from Ken and his team. Apart from the power it is the best mod on my car.
 
  
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MaxA
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one. It took a little while to get used to the new handling characteristics, and then I stuck the car in a container.... It does help with body control, and reduces both squat under acceleration, and dive under braking.

It might seem, at first glance, a lot of money, but if you look at what a full set of replacement suspension might cost to improve the handling (ie Ohlins R&T), then it's a bargain, and enables you to get the most out of the OEM Bilstein DampTronic coilovers.

And if you really want, you can start playing with the settings, a little bit like remapping the engine ECU for suspension. There is a very long thread on Rennlist, various new maps to download and a lot of support direct from TPC Racing.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What impact does this have on Porsche warranty? Is it something you would have to take out before going in for service or warranty renewal?
 
  
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MJA911
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely best to take the unit out before a visit to the OPC, it’s easy enough, no tools needed.

I put one in my 997.2 and appreciated how it refined the ride and made sport mode much more usable. I felt it modernised the car, more relaxed under normal loads and yet more responsive to braking, cornering and accelerating. It soon became normal and when I took it out prior to trading in, I immediately noticed more pitter patter and brittle feeling.

Not surprisingly it’s now in the GT3, although I did need to send the module back to TPC to have different firmware installed and also needed their 3-axis accelerometer to feed it with the data it needs, as apart from the Turbo, gen1 cars don’t have 3-axis for the PASM. The GT3 is obviously a stiffer car, but again I feel it’s modernised it, more composed.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't make my mind up between this and Ohlins? I currently have Eibach springs and H&R rollbars. I like the idea of Ohlins as I can adjust the heights further and they should have a consistent feel as they are passive so I will know exactly how the car will respond under different cornering situations. Also it means 4 new shocks whereas if I go DSC I'm still using my original 60k mile shocks. However my car is a daily driver that does a few long road trips, (Alps, Scotland etc) and about 4 trackdays a year and I might find Ohlins a bit overkill for day to day? I like the idea of the DSC and still having the choice of soft or firm at the touch of a button plus I think DSC will be the better daily option. However I can get a good price for the Ohlins too so the difference between them and DSC + 3Axis sensor is only about £400.

I really need a passenger ride in a 997 gen1 with Ohlins and one with DSC to help me decide Question
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess like a lot of people I don't use the hard setting as its awful on our roads.
Sounds like a very worthwhile upgrade.
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Jcx
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first impressions are good...

my daughter said it is much more comfy in the car when on soft but it doesnt get much less comfy when on hard.

turn in is much sharper and the car just feels less understeery but i have to say i never really felt that it was understeery before; its just sharper now.

speedbumps in town on soft were like cotton wool. that was a big surprise.

and on a local private road where there is an uphill right, left, right, left spread over about 300-400m i was able to carry more speed with more confidence and only use 1/2 of the road in the process - not that it had white lines 'cos its a private road Wink

i need to drive it more and on different roads to really get a feel for it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the module was fitted I find the hard setting on my Gen 1 turbo fine to use on the UK roads which was not the case before.
 
  
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