Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: DSC Sport V1 Plug and Play PASM upgrade
Hi Guys,
My DSC Sport V1 Plug and Play PASM upgrade just landed this morning. It installed in a few minutes - it truly is plug 'n play - and then i went back to work.
So i have yet to drive it... tomorrow maybe.
Anyone got one? What do you think? Anyone ordered one and got rid of it sharpish for any reason?
I plan to write-up my expereinces in Total 911 column in Issue 160 which is due out in early December.
Naturally i will update you guys too
JCX
FredGT3 Monza
Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 162
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:57 pm Post subject:
I doubt anyone would get rid of it mate, as you know I think it transformed my 997 GTS and its done wonders for the 991 GT3.
I hope you're bringing it to the pheasant on Wednesday.
Regards
Fred _________________ Current 14 991 GT3, 986S, 2017 Cayenne Diesel Platinum
Previous 997 GTS, 996 GT3
Flat out to the end of the road!
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.
On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.
The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.
Regards
Fred _________________ Current 14 991 GT3, 986S, 2017 Cayenne Diesel Platinum
Previous 997 GTS, 996 GT3
Flat out to the end of the road!
Phil 997 Brands Hatch
Joined: 05 Dec 2015 Posts: 14049 Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.
On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.
The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.
Regards
Fred
what sort of money are these units. _________________ 911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
Others Enjoy The Moment Today.
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.
On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.
The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.
It replaces the standard PASM controller, but it hooks up to the G sensor on the car so it will soften off the suspension in a straight line, stiffen the front under braking, the rear under hard acceleration and one side or the other on cornering.
On the local fen roads my GTS was awful in Sport mode, this module transformed it.
The 981/991 v2 device also changes the behaviour of the dynamic engine mounts if fitted.
There is also a further 5% off those prices at the moment.
Ken
thanks Ken _________________ 911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
Others Enjoy The Moment Today.
rabbitstew Montreal
Joined: 21 Aug 2015 Posts: 617
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:12 am Post subject:
The DSC unit was the first thing I added to my 997 turbo, literally days after buying the car, as I just found the car un-driveable on my local roads. Ridiculously bouncy in normal mode and rock solid in sport.
I was a bit apprehensive about the price as its not cheap, but it was well worth it as it totally transformed the car. Both modes are very useable on the bendy B roads where I live. _________________ 2008 997.1 Turbo Manual
2000 Ducati 996
1999 Yamaha R1
1994 Kawasaki ZXR750L2
apollokre1d Sepang
Joined: 06 Nov 2012 Posts: 2765 Location: United Kingdom
There is also a further 5% off those prices at the moment.
Ken
I highly recommend the DSC unit from Ken and his team. Apart from the power it is the best mod on my car.
MaxA Suzuka
Joined: 11 Oct 2015 Posts: 1192 Location: Helsinki
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:35 am Post subject:
I've got one. It took a little while to get used to the new handling characteristics, and then I stuck the car in a container.... It does help with body control, and reduces both squat under acceleration, and dive under braking.
It might seem, at first glance, a lot of money, but if you look at what a full set of replacement suspension might cost to improve the handling (ie Ohlins R&T), then it's a bargain, and enables you to get the most out of the OEM Bilstein DampTronic coilovers.
And if you really want, you can start playing with the settings, a little bit like remapping the engine ECU for suspension. There is a very long thread on Rennlist, various new maps to download and a lot of support direct from TPC Racing. _________________ 2010 9972 C4S PDK: Carrara White, Sea Blue. Mostly driven, lightly modified, occasionally tracked, and usually a bit grubby.
boardingnath997 Trainee
Joined: 28 Sep 2016 Posts: 60
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject:
What impact does this have on Porsche warranty? Is it something you would have to take out before going in for service or warranty renewal?
MJA911 Magny-Cours
Joined: 10 Dec 2013 Posts: 2657 Location: Berkshire
Definitely best to take the unit out before a visit to the OPC, it’s easy enough, no tools needed.
I put one in my 997.2 and appreciated how it refined the ride and made sport mode much more usable. I felt it modernised the car, more relaxed under normal loads and yet more responsive to braking, cornering and accelerating. It soon became normal and when I took it out prior to trading in, I immediately noticed more pitter patter and brittle feeling.
Not surprisingly it’s now in the GT3, although I did need to send the module back to TPC to have different firmware installed and also needed their 3-axis accelerometer to feed it with the data it needs, as apart from the Turbo, gen1 cars don’t have 3-axis for the PASM. The GT3 is obviously a stiffer car, but again I feel it’s modernised it, more composed. _________________ 991 C2 PDK, 986 Boxster S
Past pleasures: 997.1 GT3, 997.2 C4S Cab, 993 C2, 997.1 C2S, 996.1 C4
Phil 997 Brands Hatch
Joined: 05 Dec 2015 Posts: 14049 Location: Bournemouth,Dorset
every post moves it further up my xmas list lol. _________________ 911 Owners,Some Invest In The Future,
Others Enjoy The Moment Today.
krispe Monza
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 236 Location: Northampton
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:59 am Post subject:
I still can't make my mind up between this and Ohlins? I currently have Eibach springs and H&R rollbars. I like the idea of Ohlins as I can adjust the heights further and they should have a consistent feel as they are passive so I will know exactly how the car will respond under different cornering situations. Also it means 4 new shocks whereas if I go DSC I'm still using my original 60k mile shocks. However my car is a daily driver that does a few long road trips, (Alps, Scotland etc) and about 4 trackdays a year and I might find Ohlins a bit overkill for day to day? I like the idea of the DSC and still having the choice of soft or firm at the touch of a button plus I think DSC will be the better daily option. However I can get a good price for the Ohlins too so the difference between them and DSC + 3Axis sensor is only about £400.
I really need a passenger ride in a 997 gen1 with Ohlins and one with DSC to help me decide _________________ Seal Grey 997S
Racing Yellow Cayman 981GTS
KJD Suzuka
Joined: 18 Feb 2015 Posts: 1200 Location: Monmouthshire
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:17 am Post subject:
I guess like a lot of people I don't use the hard setting as its awful on our roads.
Sounds like a very worthwhile upgrade. _________________ Arctic Silver 997 Manual Carrera 2s
my daughter said it is much more comfy in the car when on soft but it doesnt get much less comfy when on hard.
turn in is much sharper and the car just feels less understeery but i have to say i never really felt that it was understeery before; its just sharper now.
speedbumps in town on soft were like cotton wool. that was a big surprise.
and on a local private road where there is an uphill right, left, right, left spread over about 300-400m i was able to carry more speed with more confidence and only use 1/2 of the road in the process - not that it had white lines 'cos its a private road
i need to drive it more and on different roads to really get a feel for it.
apollokre1d Sepang
Joined: 06 Nov 2012 Posts: 2765 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:12 am Post subject:
Since the module was fitted I find the hard setting on my Gen 1 turbo fine to use on the UK roads which was not the case before.
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