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Rossi911
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickjonesn4 wrote:
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westcoastclassic wrote:
Similar but different to this car at the highly respected Border Reivers in Loch Lomond (link below). This car is pretty awesome and I am amazed it has not sold, I have seen it in the flesh and its virtually beyond any kind of improvement and judging by JZMs ask its a steal, why wont people come North of the Border.


Having seen 2 cars from Border Reivers in the last year, shocking quality and very bad customer service by virtue of this thread.

997 S from Border Reivers: engine failure

Best avoided and that 993 you refer to is worth a lot less than they are asking for it.

Border Reivers 'Caveat emptor'


My experience of attempting to buy a car from them was pathetic. The owner took the hump when I asked about a car they had listed that he had decided wasnt for sale (it was marked POA!!!) He basically has since refused to let me book a time to go there. End result is that I will never buy a car from them. Overpriced and obnoxious.


Border Reivers on the list of Rogue Porsche Trader Tactics along with the likes of HWM and Raby Porsche frustrated
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raby?
I've not heard any bad things about him. Are there?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Day of the Jackal has been loaded onto Netflix if you're interested. Grin


I think you meant uploaded to YouTube?

F12, mountain pass....now that is a day!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a nice car, but, in the cold light of day, it's a modified 80k miles C2 and while perhaps a rather binary way of looking at it, to the purist that is all it will ever be regardless of how well it's been done.

Purists aside £110k is hell of a chunk of change when you consider what else is available for the money.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crash7 wrote:
It's a nice car, but, in the cold light of day, it's a modified 80k miles C2 and while perhaps a rather binary way of looking at it, to the purist that is all it will ever be regardless of how well it's been done.

Purists aside £110k is hell of a chunk of change when you consider what else is available for the money.


This type of car is bought by the type of people who have the "what else is available for the money" already. That is the appeal, you can't just go and buy one.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jotaking wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Day of the Jackal has been loaded onto Netflix if you're interested. Grin


I think you meant uploaded to YouTube?

F12, mountain pass....now that is a day!


Open Youtube Page


Awesome cars aren't they, the best GT car bar none Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

£109,900 for a 993 C2 with RS bits.

That's a hell of a lot in a dropping market.

Which is why Jackel has probably decided to sell now.

The tide is going one way!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny I still see the complete opposite Floor
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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£109,900 for a 993 C2 with RS bits.

That's a hell of a lot in a dropping market.

Which is why Jackel has probably decided to sell now.

The tide is going one way!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
g7jhp wrote:
£109,900 for a 993 C2 with RS bits.

That's a hell of a lot in a dropping market.

Which is why Jackel has probably decided to sell now.

The tide is going one way!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I showed it one of my customers today. He rebuilds and maintains classic cars and racing cars and knows quite a bit when it comes to car valuations. He was very surprised how cheap it was considering how good a recreation it is.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if his boss snaps it up this weekend. Dont know
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
I showed it one of my customers today. He rebuilds and maintains classic cars and racing cars and knows quite a bit when it comes to car valuations. He was very surprised how cheap it was considering how good a recreation it is.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if his boss snaps it up this weekend. Dont know


Does he work in Jonttt's office Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone? Dont know
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way too cheap.
Probably better than an original, as those will be cobwebbed with flaky rubbers and seals with owners ***** out about putting miles on them.
Pretty much the ideal daily driver I reckon (apart from the front cage,
I would actually chuck the cage out entirely, save a bit of weight but lose a bit of torsional rigidity, we've all got to die sometime.)
Very very nice indeed. Pretty much perfect . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(apart from the front cage,
I would actually chuck the cage out entirely, save a bit of weight but lose a bit of torsional rigidity, we've all got to die sometime.)



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HPNer wrote:
Probably better than an original, as those will be cobwebbed with flaky rubbers and seals with owners ***** out about putting miles on them.


Hand don't think so! enjoyed taking mine out to a meet last night in the drizzle with semi slicks bye

also i know tp81 has just returned from an epic trip in his... Wink

[edit: as a 993 project, it's probably one of the finest, if not the finest rep', but as mentioned previously doesn't necessarily float everyone's boat] GLWTS Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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don't think so! enjoyed taking mine out to a meet last night in the drizzle with semi slicks bye

also i know tp81 has just returned from an epic trip in his... Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a couple of px laps on nurburgring in it, 6 glorious years chasing it all over Europe and even had a couple of hours behind the wheel caning it through the Pyrenees Grin

Gutted that I'll probably never see the yellow peril again but GLWS mate - it's worth every penny and then some, purists be damned ThumbSad
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did a couple of px laps on nurburgring in it, 6 glorious years chasing it all over Europe and even had a couple of hours behind the wheel caning it through the Pyrenees Grin

Gutted that I'll probably never see the yellow peril again but GLWS mate - it's worth every penny and then some, purists be damned ThumbSad


Agree but in my case make that four years not six. Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon you lads should all chip in together and buy it for your Euro 'tours'. You can either take turns who drives it each year or rent it out for an honorary hooner. Be a good invest and you can continue to have that stunning vibrant colour on you trips.
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