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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Black 993 Turbo @ Harbour Cars Reply with quote

http://www.harbourcars.com/used-car-details/Porsche-911-U73/

A non-S Turbo, in Black, with the X50 pack; perfect 993....for a £160k!
At least this time they didn't list it as "POA".
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Black 993 Turbo @ Harbour Cars Reply with quote

911_AS wrote:
http://www.harbourcars.com/used-car-details/Porsche-911-U73/

A non-S Turbo, in Black, with the X50 pack; perfect 993....for a £160k!
At least this time they didn't list it as "POA".


I'll take x 2 997 turbos instead Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking car and spec but it's £60k OTT for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well priced I say. Looks a cracker Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks a great car, with nice low miles, sure it will sell.
2 air cooled cars recently, haven’t seen an air cooled in Harbour for a very long time.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not keen on the grey interior what Too much dough I reckon Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
Too much dough I reckon Rolling Eyes


This....

spongebob squarepants wrote:
I'll take x 2 997 turbos instead Rolling Eyes


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2011 Porsche 997 Turbo S

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Black 993 Turbo @ Harbour Cars Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
911_AS wrote:
http://www.harbourcars.com/used-car-details/Porsche-911-U73/

A non-S Turbo, in Black, with the X50 pack; perfect 993....for a £160k!
At least this time they didn't list it as "POA".


I'll take x 2 997 turbos instead Rolling Eyes


Beautiful car , but couldn't pay that for it ...the 993's are out of reach for most enthusiasts now ......

I agree with SB ...2x 997 Turbos would be a far better prospect .... Maybe would get driven more , although these are more of a target these days too .....!!
Where does the price rise stop.......we have been predicting a slow down for a long time now , but the ,asked seems to keep pace ... Do these cars get sold at that price to buyers in this country or are they being bought by 'investors' abroad ? I suspect an export market at that level ...!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price is spot on Thumb

There is one fact that always remains constant in the long term, rarity, desirability and quality = demand, That demand does not have to be to a mass market due to the rarity so yes out of the reach of most "enthusiasts" but then so is a 997 turbo. Most "enthusiasts" are in a much lower price bracket than both Rolling Eyes

Face facts these are cars are now purchased by a different type of buyer but to imply they are not enthusiasts is just ignorant. A 997 turbo is likely to be bought as a daily or second car. A 993 at this price point is likely to be bought as a 4th or 5th car, of course it won't be driven as much as a 997 turbo Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Face facts these are cars are now purchased by a different type of buyer


You mean one who believes in the Emperor's new clothes Dont know

Trouble is I'm reminded of this:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep you have been applying that chart for the past 5 years Thumb

However there is no timeline and by the time "first sell off" is reached in 2100 I won't be bothered Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollokre1d wrote:
Zingari wrote:
Too much dough I reckon Rolling Eyes


This....

spongebob squarepants wrote:
I'll take x 2 997 turbos instead Rolling Eyes


...and this Thumb


or the 997 turbo is twice the car for half the money thumbsup
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised

Can't belive some of those comments. You guys would rather have TWO 997 turbos in place of one, air cooled 993 Turbo?! Wrong on so many levels. 997Ts look gash. I wonder why they cost 2/3 times more...




 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyinsky wrote:
Surprised

Can't belive some of those comments. You guys would rather have TWO 997 turbos in place of one, air cooled 993 Turbo?! Wrong on so many levels. 997Ts look gash. I wonder why they cost 2/3 times more...






997 turbo is hideous to behold, those wheels... yuk
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickjonesn4 wrote:
tyinsky wrote:
Surprised

Can't belive some of those comments. You guys would rather have TWO 997 turbos in place of one, air cooled 993 Turbo?! Wrong on so many levels. 997Ts look gash. I wonder why they cost 2/3 times more...






997 turbo is hideous to behold, those wheels... yuk


But could actually afford 1 of these



AND one of these (with the centre-locks)



And as Mrs Sponge said when I proudly showed on my last mint 993 "It smells inside"
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you guys are being a little harsh on the 997 Turbo. Hand

It's all about the context. The 997 can't compete against the beauty of a 993, of course, but in the wider context of most cars on the road it's a fine looking thing. I wouldn't want one but it's still a 911 when all's said and done.

Both versions would look ten times better without a big 'orrible wing on the back IMO.

Back to the Harbour Cars Turbo, I notice that it has the new official Porsche warranty for 993. Porsche managed to sell at least one of those then! I can't believe that there have been many takers.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spongebob squarepants wrote:
nickjonesn4 wrote:
tyinsky wrote:
Surprised

Can't belive some of those comments. You guys would rather have TWO 997 turbos in place of one, air cooled 993 Turbo?! Wrong on so many levels. 997Ts look gash. I wonder why they cost 2/3 times more...






997 turbo is hideous to behold, those wheels... yuk


But could actually afford 1 of these



AND one of these (with the centre-locks)



And as Mrs Sponge said when I proudly showed on my last mint 993 "It smells inside"


That GTS is lovely, most 997s look great, I just don't like the turbo. It looks very dated IMHO.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
jonttt wrote:

Face facts these are cars are now purchased by a different type of buyer


You mean one who believes in the Emperor's new clothes Dont know

Trouble is I'm reminded of this:




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2011 Porsche 997 Turbo S

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonttt wrote:
Price is spot on Thumb

There is one fact that always remains constant in the long term, rarity, desirability and quality = demand, That demand does not have to be to a mass market due to the rarity so yes out of the reach of most "enthusiasts" but then so is a 997 turbo. Most "enthusiasts" are in a much lower price bracket than both Rolling Eyes

Face facts these are cars are now purchased by a different type of buyer but to imply they are not enthusiasts is just ignorant. A 997 turbo is likely to be bought as a daily or second car. A 993 at this price point is likely to be bought as a 4th or 5th car, of course it won't be driven as much as a 997 turbo Grin
h

"Ignorant' ....?

Not the choice of word I would tend to use .....but ....

No one said that they were not ' enthusiasts'......most Porsche buyers are but there can be no denying that there is a lot more 'speculation' going on these says than before ....

A purchase at this price may well be a 3rd or 4th car but that is more or less my point .....what I meant to say is that although most 'people/ enthusiasts' on here would genuinely love to have a 993 turbo in the garage ...it's not feasible anymore ( for most) ....

Personally ...I would have a 2S ..............I would put myself in the ' enthusiast ' bracket .. ( I am even questioning what an 'enthusiast' is now ..!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dommorton wrote:
Zingari wrote:
jonttt wrote:

Face facts these are cars are now purchased by a different type of buyer


You mean one who believes in the Emperor's new clothes Dont know

Trouble is I'm reminded of this:





Dear ,dear , dear.....does it always end like this ......?
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