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daz parker
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baz,

Thank you for answering my question, I will now treat all gen 1's the same.

Have you any of the engines you have rebuilt fail again? I only ask as if I see it's had you rebuild I know if to have the bores checked or assume it's all good.

Have you had a rebuilt engine on long term test so it covered many thousands of miles and rechecked it all?

I new and just trying to learn and understand.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me again!

So as I'm cash ready now as my car sold this week I've been more of an effort looking for my first 911.

I found a 2005 low mileage hartech 10k rebuilt version which ticked 80% of the boxes but when I asked about the engine rebuild it had only had one bank rebuilt with 4,5,6.

Then I've seen another with a £4800 rebuild, ive not asked yet who built it or what's been done I'll be doing that today if I get chance.

But this reopened all my thoughts, Id set my mind on a rebuilt hartech gen 1 as they are a top builder and rebuild the engine to a great spec than stock but if it's only had the effected side rebuilt then I'd know that it wouldn't happen again.

Then again if the £4800 rebuilt engine turns out it's had a similar rebuild but fitted with stock parts I take it there is a chance it could happen again?

I've read the prevention is low stat and changing oil regular while been mechanically sympathetic warming up / cooling down.

Am I know right thinking if hartech have rebuilt the engine then them cylinders won't bone score again because they have modified components but a rebuilt engine using factory parts could happen again?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you are correct.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Alex atleast I'm learning, now to keep refreshing all the selling pages to watch out for new ads.

A nice 997.1 in atlas grey 80k original engine had been advertised but I've kinda got it into my head that I should get a rebuilt one now even if it's bores are ok. Shame really as I think I might just be overthinking it now.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709079052999?make=PORSCHE&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=bb68es&keywords=hartech&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have that one saved and haven't contacted him about the rebuild yet.

It's quite modified which i personally don't mind.

The mileage is a slight put off even thoughts it's only 7k per year.

What's your thoughts on it?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's this one that's had one bank done. Now sold.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/202072381563
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This ones had the £4800 rebuild

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/252843963892
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The autotrader one I just posted - I'd have been straight to see that the day it was listed!!!! Full hartech rebuild, bomb proof ims, new clutch fitted by them too only 5k miles ago. Are you mad?

Always buy on condition, not mileage. You'll not see another like that for 6 months and it's well priced too.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't in a position to buy the day it was listed unfortunately.

So I take it you think it's worth it!

Delete the link or someone will buy it lol
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's worth around £22k without the engine rebuild. The fact that it's been future proofed for any new owner is really the icing on the cake. It looks tidy enough. Mileage is around average for it's age. This is its 9th owner, which some could argue is a bit much, but it might have been passed around a bit due to it having scored bores. All that's been sorted now and the car's good to go.....and go......and go.

Some of the highlights for me would be:

Manual box.
£305 road tax
0-60 under 5s (same as a 996 turbo tip)
180+ mph
Most robust ims avaiable fitted
6 new pistons and liners (I'm guessing).
New Clutch
New tyres
New front coil springs last year

I'd be asking for a fresh MOT on it though if I was buying it (although it expires in December, not November).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
This:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709079052999?make=PORSCHE&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=bb68es&keywords=hartech&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1


That is a lovely motor.

Does anybody know what brand/model those wheels are?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toffeeman wrote:
alex yates wrote:
This:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709079052999?make=PORSCHE&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=bb68es&keywords=hartech&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1


That is a lovely motor.

Does anybody know what brand/model those wheels are?


vertini magic concave alloys per Phil
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex yates wrote:
Well it's worth around £22k without the engine rebuild. The fact that it's been future proofed for any new owner is really the icing on the cake. It looks tidy enough. Mileage is around average for it's age. This is its 9th owner, which some could argue is a bit much, but it might have been passed around a bit due to it having scored bores. All that's been sorted now and the car's good to go.....and go......and go.

Some of the highlights for me would be:

Manual box.
£305 road tax
0-60 under 5s (same as a 996 turbo tip)
180+ mph
Most robust ims avaiable fitted
6 new pistons and liners (I'm guessing).
New Clutch
New tyres
New front coil springs last year

I'd be asking for a fresh MOT on it though if I was buying it (although it expires in December, not November).


Also have you seen its location? Joking before I get jumped on.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of this sites most affluent members live in Liverpool!


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If you get a wriggle on, you might even catch the bank for your deposit Grin


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a 240 miles round trip from me and working flat out at the moment.

The good thing is really as the engines sorted, in theory it can be just checked over like any other car.

I put it second after the black on a posted, yes it was 4 grand more but preferred black and it had nearly half the miles. That been sold now this one comes to the top as it's the same price as the atlas grey one with 80k miles and no rebuild.

Would need the matching rear spoiler also.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz parker wrote:
toffeeman wrote:
alex yates wrote:
This:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709079052999?make=PORSCHE&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=bb68es&keywords=hartech&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&page=1


That is a lovely motor.

Does anybody know what brand/model those wheels are?


vertini magic concave alloys per Phil


Ah, I thought they may have been but I wasn’t sure.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice wheels but would of looked better in silver.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz parker wrote:
Nice wheels but would of looked better in silver.


Only £260 to put that right and alloys usually need refurbing at some point. Very, very, very minor detail compared to the engine work most don't have.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz parker wrote:
Nice wheels but would of looked better in silver.


I agree, I like black wheels buts in this instance it hides the detail of the wheel. I think I’d go a bit darker than silver just to provide a bit of a colour contrast from car to wheels. Something like anthracite or similar.
 
  
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