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captain caveman
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:33 pm    Post subject: So the spending starts..... Reply with quote

Some will now I put the car up for sale couple of weeks ago, with all the known faults listed.
Well the amount of interest I had was quite surprising all things considered.
It seems the early C2 manual cars are quite in demand as the question I was asked the most was does it have a cable throttle?
Dont see what the fuss is there myself but each to there own i guess.

Anyway this got me thinking maybe I was rushing into selling it to quickly and should at least give it a proper go rather end up regretting it like I have done in the past.
So today left at 5 to drop it off in Essex to have the gearbox rebuilt.



Next on the list will be tha paint work.
Going to be an expensive couple of week's.
 
  
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EGTE
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good plan! Thumb
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...just think what you'll have at the end of it. Lovely colour car m8 - hope it all goes well. Thumb


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to join in here:

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=123096&highlight=

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CC,
Out of curiosity... where are you having the box rebuilt in Essex?
 
  
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captain caveman
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy. https://www.ecu-solutions.net/ Comes with a 2 year/25k guarantee.
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain caveman wrote:
This guy. https://www.ecu-solutions.net/ Comes with a 2 year/25k guarantee.


If you don't mind me asking, how much? I am going to need mine done at some point.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

£2500.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch.

whats up with it?
 
  
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GARY S
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article on YouTube "Porsche 996/997 gearbox whine" by Richard Beaumont. Shows what looks very similar to a large IMS bearing with excessive wear to balls & casing due again to failure of the plastic seal letting in oil & "washing out" the supposed "seal for life grease". Another poor design from the alleged "holy grail of German engineering" or is it due to the fact Porsche sources parts from Brazil of all places. You pay a premium for a car built in Germany but turns out it is from parts made in the "third world". Proves how, post 993 (with the assistance of Toyota) Porsche built cars to a budget (and a low one at that).
 
  
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Harv
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming your gbox is suffering from the dreaded pinon shaft bearing failing (not sure if they can be sourced outside of the OEM item or not) then this nice write-up shows what lies ahead.

More bearings with dust shields that should be omitted!

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/945482-996-transmission-rebuild-and-pinion-bearing-replacement-diy.html
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sports and Classic offering that for about £1400 are they not?
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captain caveman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried sports and classic, They were starting off at £3000+ and that was with me sending them the box on a pallet.

More expense today the guy doing my box has told me theres quite a lot of play in my ims witch i was going to have done at some point.

But not sure if he,s trying to blag more cash out of me.
Either way after talking to him on the phone i wont be having him change it anyway. He wants £2500 extra to do it, Seems to think the casings have to be split Surprised So i,l be having it done else where.

I,l be collecting the car on a trailer. Now if the bearing is as bad as he says i don't even want to risk starting it.
So im not going to be able to try the gearbox out before i pay up.
Catch 22 what do you do Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is going cost of a reconditioned box from a specialist? They'll often take your old unit as part payment to repair and sell. Contact a few of the advertisements on here for advice Thumb
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captain caveman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its already away being done.
 
  
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Gixxer996
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would have to split the casings if you have the later style larger bearing. Is it on its original engine?

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=123082
 
  
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captain caveman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as i know its the original.
3.4 with the Duel row bearing.
I thought it was only on the 997 that you had to split the casings.
 
  
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Marky911
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No such thing as a cheap 911 eh. Grin

Sorry, just kidding, I couldn't resist.

The gearbox guy is giving you a warranty for the work he's doing isn't he?
If so, get that done then get the car to somewhere else to have the IMS inspected.
If it is as rattly as gearbox guy is claiming, I'd also be worried about whether any swarf has made its way around the engine. The garage who confirm the IMS is bad can advise what to do.
They can open up your oil filter and check for debris etc. Hopefully you've caught it early.

Once all back together you can drive it and any problems with the box will have to be rectified by the guy it's with at the moment.
Removing the box for IMS repair shouldn't invalidate his warranty as you aren't touching the workings of the box, you're simply dropping it off the car to access the IMS.
CHECK THAT THIS IS OK WITH GEARBIX GUY THOUGH.

He's about 1000% more expensive than my Indy. £2500 when he already has the box off is a Mickey-take.

My Indy charges £250 + vat to remove box, remove IMS, then fit an IMS of your choice (you supply it) and rebuild.

If my IMS started to go I'd be fitting the EPS roller bearing but it's all a massive can of worms trying to discuss it these days without the usual parties trying to shout loudest.

Good luck getting sorted. It'll be a nice car once done and it's the most desirable spec. Thumb


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Gixxer996
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's had a replacement engine from porsche after they updated the design it may have a larger non serviceable bearing. Mine is a 3.4 996 and does. The link I just posted may help you identify if it has had a replacement "AT" engine by the engine number.

Otherwise I believe you are correct and it should be servicable without disassembly.
 
  
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Marky911
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't have to split the casings on any engine pre 2005.
 
  
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