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C4-STORM
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2004 Porsche 996 Carrera 4S

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Sunroof delete - C4S Reply with quote

Hi All.

Was the sunroof a standard item on the 4S and therefore non-sunroof models are a specified factory delete option?

Still waiting for my COA from PCGB.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I love having the choice of sunroof or aircon, and often both at the same time. Apart from being tall, I cannot understand why anyone would delete it at point of order. I did come from 2 rag tops prior to the 996 so may have been an influence. Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand it, they were a no-cost option. I wish my car didn't have one, it adds a whole bunch of weight right where I don't want it. One of these days I'll be investing in a carbon roof a la CLR.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting replies.

I also can't think why anyone would request no sunroof at point of order however I do love the clean lines without.

Didn't think about the weight consideration either.

Are the sunroofs/seals/motors etc. generally trouble-free?

Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in the sunroof is just a useless added weight in the wrong place group both my 997s have had sunroof delete which was great you have ac you have windows why would you want a rattley old heavy lump on the roof of a sports car. when I see Gt3s with sunroof I will know all is lost in the world lol. Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair play Thumb

Mine's without and I quite like it that way..
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Sunroof delete - C4S Reply with quote

C4-STORM wrote:
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Was the sunroof a standard item on the 4S and therefore non-sunroof models are a specified factory delete option?

Still waiting for my COA from PCGB.



It is confusing and I'm not sure that the CoA will answer your question.

I've just looked at my records for my 2002 C4 (non S).

My car had a tilt/slide electric sunroof.

According to a VIN decoder it had Option M350 which is an electric sunroof.

BUT no option number for any sort of sunroof was listed on my build sticker.

HOWEVER My CoA is showing 'Sun Roof' under optional equipment fitted.

My conclusion which is purely a guess = 'Sun Roof Delete' was the option.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Terry.

Thanks for that.

I was just curious as most seem to have S/R and I have seen some advertised as 'Sunroof Delete' like that is a selling point.

Seems less around without than with.

How can I check my build spec by using the VIN?

Brett.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C4-STORM wrote:


How can I check my build spec by using the VIN?



I don't know now. The free on-line decoders that were around several years ago don't seem to work nowadays.

iirc there is someone on the forum that has access to such info so it might be worth starting a new thread asking the question.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understood that the S/R was standard on the C4S

So yes the option was to delete.

Don't think many did though, I had a C4S for 10 years - it had the S/R.

Had a few issues over the years.
1st rattles - there was a Porsche tech. bullitn on how to resolve so it must have been a common issue.
2nd keep the drains clear else you'll end up with damp carpets behind passenger seat.
3rd Micro switches failed causing it to bounce on closing.

If I was ever spec.ing from new I'd tick the S/R delete Smile
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vlad wrote:
I understood that the S/R was standard on the C4S

So yes the option was to delete.

Don't think many did though, I had a C4S for 10 years - it had the S/R.

Had a few issues over the years.
1st rattles - there was a Porsche tech. bullitn on how to resolve so it must have been a common issue.
2nd keep the drains clear else you'll end up with damp carpets behind passenger seat.
3rd Micro switches failed causing it to bounce on closing.

If I was ever spec.ing from new I'd tick the S/R delete Smile


That's interesting to hear. I wasn't too fussed either way but perhaps it's just as well I don't have one, would have liked PSE tho but again I have heard that it's costly to replace.

I was hoping the COA would list all specified options including this Question
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my '03 C2 Coupé the option code for sunroof delete is:

'652 V W/O SLIDE/TILT ROOF'

FWIW, I think the sunroof delete makes sense on a coupé, seems to suit the ethic of a drivers car more IMHO.

Not sure on the 996 but I've had a sunroof cassette/mechanism etc out of another (German) car before and they're surprisingly heavy - significant amount of weight high up in the car that rarely gets used.

For open top/airy motoring there's the targa or cabriolet? Thumb
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed - just as well I suppose Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my sunroof and drive with it open all the time except when it's raining as it lets in so much light and the sound from the sports exhaust and induction kit Thumb

In he winter it's great with the heater on and sunroof open plus you don't get blown to bits like you do in a cabrio.

By the way they were standard on the 4s and delete was the option
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Winny Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree, it's a bit strange to delete the S/R but still love mine... oh and the Slate Grey.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clean lines thumbsup
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

996JMY wrote:
I have to agree, it's a bit strange to delete the S/R but still love mine... oh and the Slate Grey.


Was going to to say my old one didn't have one, old LOO doing well then?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What can I say, just amazing.
Nearly a year of ownership and running like clockwork! Just had to sort air con but other than that all perfect.
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