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ms2015
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:06 am    Post subject: 964 Turbo 1700 miles from new and engine rebuild needed? Reply with quote

can one of you mechanically minded experts explain to very simple me how this 964 turbo with 1700 miles needs a complete engine rebuild?
I get that it was stored long term, I get that it has perished rubbers and stale fluids etc, but would a full rebuild actually be necessary?

http://www.rmsothebys.com/lf17/london/lots/1993-porsche-911-turbo-36/1704344
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps corrosion/seized through lack of use?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sultan of Brunei.

Full of sand?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 25 year old engine, considering the value of these cars,

one would assume it would have been a very simple rebuilt with only the perishable rubbers and gaskets needing replacing and any sand
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think age/lack of use has driven the belt and braces approach. 3.6T is a rare car and £200k is not unusual for very good examples what
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said it will be for oil seals most likely or seizure.

Stunning car, once you ditch those silly over size sharkfins. Reminds me of my old red 3.3T. At the same time our mate Graham had the Horizon Blue Sultan 3.6T with only 8k on. Stunning. It had the mega rare X88 Powerkit too.

Anyway remember lads, if you don't it use it, it'll shrivel up...
I'm talking oil seals obviously. Wink
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full rebuild means that in addition to the top end the case will also need to be split to replace gaskets.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question There aren't any gaskets on the bottom end.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither does the top (early ones) .... you know what I mean, seals, O-rings blah blah ....
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterS wrote:
Sultan of Brunei.

Full of sand?


In Brunei? Confused

He could have driven it on the beach I suppose.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mondrian wrote:
Neither does the top (early ones) .... you know what I mean, seals, O-rings blah blah ....


Top has cam end seal and timing chain housing gaskets but a bit odd to split the case for no reason.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bidding ran out of steam at £200k on this car and it went unsold.
As you chaps have said it just have been the sand related engine rebuild situation - in any other circumstance an untouched 1700 miler would have gone through the upper estimate
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prices are well off the top been offered a couple of discounted cars recently .
 
  
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