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sim996
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:17 pm    Post subject: Fearnsport Turbo build Reply with quote

Got my engine at fearnsport for a rebuild, Matt really knows his stuff I have to say, though I wish I'd gone to him sooner.
 



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MisterCorn
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does seem to. What are you having done?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does have a good rep!

Couple of chaps on here have had some work done by him, 911tom has had a big build done and is now running mega power and I also thought MC had an engine down there?

I'm having a rebuild done by Sid at Porsche Torque. More for future proofing and reliability than for ridiculous power. Its an interesting time!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine should make plenty of power. My main concern is the gearbox.

I'll see if I can cap the torque
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the best with this build , to Matt's credit his work quality and attention to detail is one of the best .

Recently I was taking apart my car and noticed even the cable ties he used were a US brand costing £65 a bag iirc .


I wonder if it possible for an enthusiast to complete an engine build given that time wouldn't be a factor.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb stuff Matt is well respected Thumb
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an engine with Matt, it is being rebuilt with a stronger gearbox. I'll post up details when it is finished. Hopefully next year.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Another work of art from Fearnsport. Been through the same process with mine last year. What are you going for OP? Is it just a straight 3.6 build or are you upgrading to 3.8? Have you decided on turbos etc? Do you have a power figure in mind? With regard to gearbox is it manual or tiptronic? You are right it is torque that will upset the drivetrain. If you plan to 'cap' the torque then you will need to consider what turbo's you fit. My turbo's do not come alive unless they are running around 1.4bar. If I wanted to run less power and torque I would be better off with smaller turbos.... Food for thought but you need an end goal and decide what it is you are wanting to achieve out of this.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom is spot on

What are your end goals as this will and more importantly affect the build. Its about what you want, near instant spool or grunt all the way to over 200mph, style of driving comes into play, road warrior or euro crusing, or track bla bla bla

From experience, my build went from serious to ridiclous very quickly as the turbos were producing so much power, then you get very serious with the £££ drive shafts, strengthen loads of parts, cooling, oils feeds, fuel system, clutch, fabrications, i wont go on as i am now going for a drive,,,cant resist as at home today

Damm you OP, why do i keep reading these great threads on 911uk !!!

Keep the updates coming,,,exciting times
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi OP
I'm a big fan of Matt and his work too having known him since his AMD days: a thorough gent and excellent work - you are definitely in good hands

The 'trouble' with mine is that he did all the work on it back in 2010 and... nothing has played up/broken/gone wrong at all since so i will have to get the latest edition of 'Man maths for Porsche owners' out as i need a winter project puh

(just back from another fab weekend on Bugatti circuit and it turned 71K on the way back - 996T's are fab cars! worship )

Good luck with your build OP

ps. Hi Faried - you met a friend of mine (also called Simon a few months ago in Cockfosters and he says hello Thumb ) sorry for the thread hijack!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very tasty! A 3.8 re-work has crossed my mind.

I did wonder about installing the GT3 valve train components and con rods to allow a few more revs, but I guess with the turbos, what you gain in power top-end, you;d likely lose because the turbos drop-off?
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FRP wrote:
Tom is spot on

What are your end goals as this will and more importantly affect the build. Its about what you want, near instant spool or grunt all the way to over 200mph, style of driving comes into play, road warrior or euro crusing, or track bla bla bla

From experience, my build went from serious to ridiclous very quickly as the turbos were producing so much power, then you get very serious with the £££ drive shafts, strengthen loads of parts, cooling, oils feeds, fuel system, clutch, fabrications, i wont go on as i am now going for a drive,,,cant resist as at home today

Damm you OP, why do i keep reading these great threads on 911uk !!!

Keep the updates coming,,,exciting times



Bring it over !
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

911tom wrote:
Very Happy Another work of art from Fearnsport. Been through the same process with mine last year. What are you going for OP? Is it just a straight 3.6 build or are you upgrading to 3.8? Have you decided on turbos etc? Do you have a power figure in mind? With regard to gearbox is it manual or tiptronic? You are right it is torque that will upset the drivetrain. If you plan to 'cap' the torque then you will need to consider what turbo's you fit. My turbo's do not come alive unless they are running around 1.4bar. If I wanted to run less power and torque I would be better off with smaller turbos.... Food for thought but you need an end goal and decide what it is you are wanting to achieve out of this.


I saw yours down there, I'm getting the same modified water lines etc, as it's a far more robust solution. Where did you get your gearbox sorted, mines a manual.

It's a road car, so I'm not too bothered about a headline figure, just that it's driveable.

Id cap the torque through mapping, turbos just need to be efficient.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gearbox was rebuilt by a firm in Germany. They only build automatics though... I'd suggest for your car you discuss options with Matt as I am sure he has built or knows where to get it done. Sports and Classic come to mind or as far as I know Bill Radar in the US of A is best known for strengthening these manual boxes. Faried (FRP on here) has just had a manual box built for his 9exx, might be worth a chat with him and 9e.

As far as capping torque with the tune. Obviously that can be done but ultimately not great as a permanent solution. If you spec to bigger turbos they may not get in to their efficiency range. If you do not want to build the gearbox then you will need to spec turbos etc to suit whatever the safe torque level is for the stock manual box. I have no idea what that is as mine is a tip. If you are thinking you will build it but not right away then go for the bigger turbos and get the tuner to write you multiple maps. I can highly recommend Rick at Unicorn Motor Developments. He is the only tuner I am aware of that can run multiple maps on the stock ecu.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'll speak to Matt again regarding the gearbox, he said yours was sent away so figured it wasn't something Matt did. He's explained the limitations with 6th gear and the helical gears, but I've not pressed him for a solution.

I get the feeling strengthening might be outside of my budget, so maybe just a refresh and torque limit the output for safety.

Anyone know a safe limit for the manual box?
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safe limit for a manual box has so many caveats

Hard launch or not
Health of the current box plus history of the current box
What is second and third gear wear and tear like
What will the power curve look like and how will it deliver the power to the box,,,,also remember its loosing traction that can destroy a box too

INMO If your gearbox is in good condition and you DO NOT implement too many hard launches, a manual box has to be good for 660 to 710 bhp but dont quote me

My box is a manual and has hed extensive works plus the drive shafts etc

At a certain power output, you need to consider going 2wd as the front diff cannot take the power!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FRP wrote:
Safe limit for a manual box has so many caveats

Hard launch or not
Health of the current box plus history of the current box
What is second and third gear wear and tear like
What will the power curve look like and how will it deliver the power to the box,,,,also remember its loosing traction that can destroy a box too

INMO If your gearbox is in good condition and you DO NOT implement too many hard launches, a manual box has to be good for 660 to 710 bhp but dont quote me

My box is a manual and has hed extensive works plus the drive shafts etc

At a certain power output, you need to consider going 2wd as the front diff cannot take the power!!!


I assume you mean torque? If I limit torque to say 650ft/lb that should keep things safe, then run to xxxhp at max revs

It won't be getting launched and won't be tracked. We'll see when it's finally running, won't be till after Xmas though, I'll just get the engine built this year.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straight cut gear set, billet diff cover, stronger diff, 2wd so the front diff doesn't pop, GT2 oil pump and spray bar, Bob's your uncle.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pesky double post. Matt is sorting mine out for me so it can be done.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC

All of the above and more LOL
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