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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:02 pm    Post subject: Talk me into not buying V10 R8 and keeping 997 Reply with quote

I'm looking for a highly partisan, pro-Porsche response to the question, should I trade in my 997 for an R8.

I suspect that I'll love the R8 for all of the obvious reasons but scared that I'll miss my beloved 997.1 which I've had for four years now.

Any responses, either way, appreciated.
 
  
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911TEL
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Talk me into not buying V10 R8 and keeping 997 Reply with quote

StephenS1 wrote:
I'm looking for a highly partisan, pro-Porsche response to the question, should I trade in my 997 for an R8.

I suspect that I'll love the R8 for all of the obvious reasons but scared that I'll miss my beloved 997.1 which I've had for four years now.

Any responses, either way, appreciated.


I would buy the R8 ...... try it for a year then if you miss the 997 ... buy another one ..... there are plenty of them ......!!

You only live once and if you don't try , you will never know!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, here's my 2p I only have one thing to say

IT'S ONLY AN AUDI

there is nothing at all special about the marque, no heritage, no classic styling.no decades of continued improvement in handling and drivability.
I can hardly tell them apart from the other sporty looking Audi's

Hire one for a weekend and see for yourself just the lack of specialness
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driven both and I'd say keep 997. I get the appeal but........
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go and test drive an Audi R8 V10 and 997.2 turbo back to back and then decide.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, as bikeracer says, test em back to back. Before I bought my turbo I was very close to pulling the trigger on an R8 V10 but I'm glad I took the turbo.

I had a fab blast in the Lincolnshire countryside last night. Took the Mrs. for a bar meal. Had an impromptu race with a KTM1290 Superduke which was very naughty but great fun! I know, I know.... got an earbashing off Mrs. Norfolk....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikeracer1098 wrote:
Go and test drive an Audi R8 V10 and 997.2 turbo back to back and then decide.


Ah, but this was not the choice the OP asked about ..... he asked , whether to buy the R8 V10 .... or keep his 997.1....

A choice between a 997.2 Turbo and an R8 V10 is a slightly different thing .....

There would only be one winner in that comparison ... but the original question if tested back to back might be a different outcome ....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Talk me into not buying V10 R8 and keeping 997 Reply with quote

911TEL wrote:
StephenS1 wrote:
I'm looking for a highly partisan, pro-Porsche response to the question, should I trade in my 997 for an R8.

I suspect that I'll love the R8 for all of the obvious reasons but scared that I'll miss my beloved 997.1 which I've had for four years now.

Any responses, either way, appreciated.


I would buy the R8 ...... try it for a year then if you miss the 997 ... buy another one ..... there are plenty of them ......!!

You only live once and if you don't try , you will never know!!!


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Norfolk & Idea
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

911TEL wrote:
Bikeracer1098 wrote:
Go and test drive an Audi R8 V10 and 997.2 turbo back to back and then decide.


Ah, but this was not the choice the OP asked about ..... he asked , whether to buy the R8 V10 .... or keep his 997.1....

A choice between a 997.2 Turbo and an R8 V10 is a slightly different thing .....

There would only be one winner in that comparison ... but the original question if tested back to back might be a different outcome ....


Ah come on, we all know that. Some threads need twisting a bit.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money comes and goes, time only goes.

The R8 sounds nicer, is more in your face look-at-me.

The 997 is is more subtle in looks and sound (better looking IMO), and can also be a GT as well as sports car. It will carry more (people and luggage).

The choice is yours.....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you got an itch itch it, what the worst that can happen, loose a few quid and jump back into the 997
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do what I did, sell the Gen 1 and buy a Gen 2 best thing I ever did no question.

As for the Audi, as Phil says it's an Audi, never driven one had a very weak hankering for one but bought the 997. Would I have one? Never, also I'm told they drop quite heavily in value.

Only problem you'll have is finding a very good Gen 2 at the right money.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a big TT, All the seats, switches, dials are similar or the same.

They aren't special enough, Or drive well enough. They're purposely slower than a Lamborghini, Just made as a posers first super car in my opinion.


Not much will beat the 911 range for being a car to use at the weekend, use every day, or use at the nurburgring.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've owned both, a Gen 1 R8 V10 and a 997 GTS and they are quite different beasts.

I must admit I didn't get on with the R8 and sold it after 9 months. The only thing that out shines the Porsche is the engine, oh boy what an engine! It's so characterful and having that V10 by your ear it just encourages you to go flat out....which is part of the problem. The performance is so high that you just don't get near the limit on UK roads. The grip levels are very high and handling very accomplished so you have to really push on hard to get any sense of the car moving around at all. I could only get anywhere near the limits on track.

It does get a lot of attention, way more than a Porsche. All positive attention in my experience.

The interior let it down, it's not a special place to sit even though mine had all the leather and carbon you could buy for it. The seating position seems very high in the car, too high for my tastes. It's very well finished inside but just a bit Audi A4.

Mine had the carbon ceramic brakes and they were very good, if you decide to go for an R8 keep an eye out for one with ceramics.

Have a look on R8 Talk for info on them, a good lively UK forum with lots of info.

PS - My son always ask me to buy another R8 because it was the coolest car I've had. He never asks me to take him to school in the 911!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternative suggestion.....Is having both an option? 997.1 is a great long term car, not sure if the Audi is. But I fully understand the interest in having that v10 engine for a while.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neil_911 wrote:
It's a big TT, All the seats, switches, dials are similar or the same.

They aren't special enough, Or drive well enough. They're purposely slower than a Lamborghini, Just made as a posers first super car in my opinion.


Not much will beat the 911 range for being a car to use at the weekend, use every day, or use at the nurburgring.


out of interest, have you owned one and thrashed it?
ive had a 993 and have a V8 R8, and what you posted makes no sense to be honest. the V8 R8 without the modern electric steering drives fantastically. the modern V10 beat other supercars including the Porsche up the hill at Goodwood, in a timed sprint.

i'm not sure what your definition of "drives well" is. I've had sportscars, track cars, fast road cars. its as good as anything on the road in terms of handling and go. that includes Imrans 650bhp 997 turbo i was loaned.
just saying .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good mate has a (pretty rare) R8 GT, with the V10. It's a lovely car. About the only point I'd fault it on is its width, which you do become wary of on UK B roads.

We went over to the Ring in May in convoy and the cars - his R8 and my 996tt - were extremely well-matched, if very different beasts.

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In summary, if you fancy it, try one. They are great motors.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisT70 wrote:
neil_911 wrote:
It's a big TT, All the seats, switches, dials are similar or the same.

They aren't special enough, Or drive well enough. They're purposely slower than a Lamborghini, Just made as a posers first super car in my opinion.


Not much will beat the 911 range for being a car to use at the weekend, use every day, or use at the nurburgring.


out of interest, have you owned one and thrashed it?
ive had a 993 and have a V8 R8, and what you posted makes no sense to be honest. the V8 R8 without the modern electric steering drives fantastically. the modern V10 beat other supercars including the Porsche up the hill at Goodwood, in a timed sprint.

i'm not sure what your definition of "drives well" is. I've had sportscars, track cars, fast road cars. its as good as anything on the road in terms of handling and go. that includes Imrans 650bhp 997 turbo i was loaned.
just saying .


I nearly bought one, and I've driven one on a track.

It lacked feel, It's too "safe". The steering didn't feel right, the brakes don't have feel like a 911 does. The interior is really disappointing. I'll agree its an accomplished car, but it lacked fun.

It sounds nice, But yeah - not for me in my opinion....

Fair play if you liked it, I just didn't. Maybe the 911 heritage sways me more towards the Porsche brand into liking it more.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd extended drive or hire one for a day and then decide whether its worth buying (cheaper spending a couple of hundred quid on a hire). Life is short and if it appeals to you then buy it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neil_911 wrote:
ChrisT70 wrote:
neil_911 wrote:
It's a big TT, All the seats, switches, dials are similar or the same.

They aren't special enough, Or drive well enough. They're purposely slower than a Lamborghini, Just made as a posers first super car in my opinion.


Not much will beat the 911 range for being a car to use at the weekend, use every day, or use at the nurburgring.


out of interest, have you owned one and thrashed it?
ive had a 993 and have a V8 R8, and what you posted makes no sense to be honest. the V8 R8 without the modern electric steering drives fantastically. the modern V10 beat other supercars including the Porsche up the hill at Goodwood, in a timed sprint.

i'm not sure what your definition of "drives well" is. I've had sportscars, track cars, fast road cars. its as good as anything on the road in terms of handling and go. that includes Imrans 650bhp 997 turbo i was loaned.
just saying .


I nearly bought one, and I've driven one on a track.

It lacked feel, It's too "safe". The steering didn't feel right, the brakes don't have feel like a 911 does. The interior is really disappointing. I'll agree its an accomplished car, but it lacked fun.

It sounds nice, But yeah - not for me in my opinion....

Fair play if you liked it, I just didn't. Maybe the 911 heritage sways me more towards the Porsche brand into liking it more.


ive come from an older 993, so my carbon/leather interior R8 is way better, and its got the best B&O plus audison amp stereo i've ever heard. the earlier R8 has better steering feel than the newer R8 apparently but less speed.
maybe try one on track with the ESP turned off, they are fairly lairy lol!
the 997 turbo i had for a bit was ultra fast, nice, great brakes, but no better or worse a drive than my R8, all good.
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