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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Thoughts on a Cat D early C4 Reply with quote

Ive just started looking for another 911 and sadly I was looking at selling my Corrado to help fund it, however I have found a cat D 3.4 C4 with good history and looks nice with sports option for about 70% of the cost of non CatD one that would mean I wouldn't have to sell the Corrado.

Its on about 115k and Ive seen some photos of the damage (both wings and front bumper) so its appears to have been an easy fix.

Just wondering what folks thoughts are on these, I realize it will be harder to sell on and I wont make as much but it seems a bit of a bargain at the moment.
Anybody else done this that can offer experience of buying / selling a Cat D?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like your going in with your eyes open regarding the value of the car and the possible re-sale 'issues'.

Subject to the usual buying criteria being met ........ why not.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy at 70% less, sell at 70% less. These cars are on their way up so you'll only lose 30% of what a non Cat D would make. Get it bought if you're sure about the work that's been done and have documented evidence. Thumb
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a few Cat Deeleys on here but I've yet to witness any snobery about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what Im thinking, as long as the work is well documented.

Only thing I can think of mechanically is if the wheel took a knock would it affect the front diff in anyway?

Theres also the higher mileage which Im not sure on.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diff will be fine as universal couplings on either ends of driveshafts. They're dear to replace though. Listen for them clicking on slow bends.

Higher mileage??????? Confused

Barely run in.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you buy a good one that's been sorted properly you simply can't go wrong in terms of keeping it and enjoying the 911 experience.

Get it checked and bought if it's a good one.👍
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't even think about it, buy on condition alone.

Any none recorded car could have been repaired in its life.

Make sure you buy at 20-30% discount as buyers will be wary and fewer.

If it has the photos and bill for repair with it so you can show it was not bent then go for it.

I've had a few recorded cars including 2x cat d corrado VR6s (1x minor front end, 1x stolen recaro interior...) and a cat c 350z (rear 1/4). No problems selling on - but they need to be priced right and there are fewer buyers for them so it may take a bit longer.

115k on anything else 18 years old would be low mileage. I'd say it was average. 180k on these is high mileage.

Mine has 128k and in rude health. Wish I could have kept the aqua blue Corrado Vr6.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoned about it, the guy is a small dealer from home and doesn't have any info on the repair, just the photos. Its got full stamped history book up to around 1000 miles go. Looks fine but only thing is Im 524miles away.

He is sending V5 for previous owner info and bonnet sticker.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggest worry I would have is does it drive straight? (as long as the price is right)

See a few recent threads on here re: Porsches being so sensitive to good geo.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a rather nice looking Cat D 996.2 C2 with x74 suspension on the bay. No affiliation but nice colour, good history and miles. Not sure if its in budget range though but easily more than £5k cheaper than a non Cat D in that condition.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd sooner stick with the more robust 3.4 engine. That gen 2 is quite pricey for a cat deeley.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought the same originally but more than happy with my 996.2. Buy on condition as always! Smile
 



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too high a risk of bore scoring.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cat Deeley? Huge risk I'd say
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edh wrote:
Biggest worry I would have is does it drive straight? (as long as the price is right)

See a few recent threads on here re: Porsches being so sensitive to good geo.


You would have that worry about any used car, recorded or not.
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't touch it. Every car I've had that turned out to have had a knock had problems associated with it. Repair shops never repair things properly in my experience. They repair what you can see, do 80% on the paint and cable tie the bits you can't see (if they're not just bent back or left hanging). So it's had two wings and a bumper? What about the arch liners and all the brackets and pipe work behind them? Fuel filler, carbon canister, suspension mounts, coolant pipes, sensors. It could be the exception to the rule but I'd walk! Sorry!
 
  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideally Id like tod speak to previous owner and get the low down.

I saw that other one but its only a couple of grand cheaper than non-Cat D plus Id need to sell the Corrado.

Might ask the guy if he minds an inspection, anywhere local to Heathrow area that could do it and know these cars?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could say the same applies to any 17yr old car.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coullstar wrote:


Might ask the guy if he minds an inspection, anywhere local to Heathrow area that could do it and know these cars?



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