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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject: high miler turbo Reply with quote

Hi All

What are the thoughts on these - prices seem OK - I know the engine doesn't score etc but how good are they beyond say 80k miles

Any experiences?

This would be for a weekend fun/tinker and improve car - so very limited use

thoughts and advice appreciated
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After recently taking apart a turbo engine (997.1) with 65,000 miles on it, 10,000 of that at high hp, internally it was fine. No bent rods, cam wear or anything to be concerned about.

At that mileage I would be looking for a good service record.

Possible things that may be an issue are;

Suspension bushings etc

Coolant leaks and coolant elbows (not as expensive as everyone makes it out to be)

Camshaft spinning

Check the ecu for faults and signs of abuse. At the right price I wouldn't be concerned with 80k.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a weekend toy that would not worry me..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you bought a BMW or Merc with 80k on the clock you wouldn't blink an eye.
I had loads of BMWs with 80k-100k on the clock.
Then did another 100k on top as well as driving it like I stole it.

Get a 997.1 with 60k on the clock and your thinking of a engine rebuild in 20k time. NOT GOOD IS IT MR PORSCHE.

I hope 997.1 turbos are better ,Just bought one .

Damn

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I clicked on this thread expecting to see someone asking about a 250k + mile car. 80k miles, are you kidding me? Thats only just getting run in!

Engine internals will be fine long past that - plenty of threads from the Yankees about 200 - 500k mile turbos with absolutely no wear on their internals when opened up, especially on standard engines.

Bonded coolant pipes will let go, thats an engine out job to fix.

Other than that and you're looking at the usual running gear wear and tear items.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragpicker wrote:
I clicked on this thread expecting to see someone asking about a 250k + mile car. 80k miles, are you kidding me? Thats only just getting run in!


Yeah

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t think there is anything wrong with someone politely asking for advice before spending £40K-£45K on a car with an engine that could well cost the same amount to replace. A 997 turbo owner on here had to replace his engine (which was stock and under Porsche warranty at the time) after it seized on the motorway so it does happen. There are many more trivial threads on here and they don’t get these sorts of comments.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said mileage isn't a problem at all. What you do need to account for is age related things as mentioned above such as suspension and radiators. Good service history is key. The best part about having a high mileage car is that you will not mind adding miles and therefore potentially will enjoy it even more being able to drive it as much as possible. thumbsup Also 80k isn't high mileage at all
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Indy services a 997.1 turbo that must be on c140k miles now. Used as a daily and no real issues with it.

It does hovever have PCCB so my thoughts would be on when these need replacing as they aint cheap what However I am told for purely road use 200k on original PCCB is easily obtained.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi folks

Thanks for the comments

I've already had 3 997,s so underTand the general stuff - you have given me some confidence Aberdeen it the big stuff - engine and box

Only want a manual

If anyone has one pls pm me

Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a circa 150K miler 996 GT2 (same engine) and the engine has had a hard life but all is in order. The ceramics are also like new, don't worry about the engine or PCCBs.
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driven as per desgin. 140,000ml 2010 997.2 turbo

http://tnydu.biz/DOuqdl
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with a 120k miles 996 turbo. Never had any engine problems.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I'm reading this right we are talking about the Mezger, which is one of the best, most over engineered legendary lumps in the business.

80+K is a walk in the park if serviced correctly.

DFI - not so sure, no where near as proven and race bread as the Mezger.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kempus wrote:
Driven as per desgin. 140,000ml 2010 997.2 turbo

http://tnydu.biz/DOuqdl


£40k for a 997.2 turbo......
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to Dubai..

Where you can pick up a .1 turbo for 25k and a 599 for 50!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

e92 wrote:
As others have said mileage isn't a problem at all. What you do need to account for is age related things as mentioned above such as suspension and radiators. Good service history is key. The best part about having a high mileage car is that you will not mind adding miles and therefore potentially will enjoy it even more being able to drive it as much as possible. thumbsup Also 80k isn't high mileage at all


+1 At this age and 80k expect the car to need (assuming not already done)

New rads
New coolant pipes
New exhaust fixings
Bushes, tie rods etc
Clutch possibly
And check brakes and brake lines

997s (and 996s) get a lot of corrosion around pipework and ancillaries (hot bits at the back of the car picking up salt etc)
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines now on 87k. Had 69k on it when I bought it 15 months back, so ive done 18k since then as my daily driver. No problems at all, it had full history when I got it and the previous owner had the rads & condenser replaced. Had brand new brakes fitted when I got it. Ive had a couple of sensors replaced (£250 incl labour) a minor service and a new set of tyres and thats it.

Im now considering having it remapped which most likely will involve an uprated clutch etc. so can have the engine checked at the same time, but ive no reason to suspect it needs anything.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine will be clocking 90k next week. In the three years that I have owned it, the only things that I have replaced from a wear and tear perspective are top mounts, one nearside front shock and the aircon pipe that runs under the sill due to corrosion. Last week however after losing boost, I now need a new actuator motor on one side, which apparently isn't cheap.
Generally though it is sweet, starts first time, doesn't burn any oil whatsoever and purrs like a proverbial kitten.
Providing the servicing history is good , I wouldn't hesitate in buying an 80k'er Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSC911 wrote:
ragpicker wrote:
I clicked on this thread expecting to see someone asking about a 250k + mile car. 80k miles, are you kidding me? Thats only just getting run in!


Yeah

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