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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:59 pm    Post subject: That Carrara White LHD Mk2 996 GT3 at Paul Stephens ..... Reply with quote

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Can anyone remember how much the car was advertised for last year/early this ?

Does £65k ring a bell ?

https://www.total911.com/sales-spotlight-porsche-996-2-gt3-2/

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Aside from being a low-mileage example with just 24,600 on the clock, it is the hue of this 996.2 GT3 that sets it apart from the rest. Carrara white is a rare shade indeed to adorn the narrow hips of a track-ready GT3, with the matching multi-spoke wheel centres a further element to this example’s bespokery.

This Gen2 car, with revised aero and a power boost of 21hp over its Gen1 counterpart, is a left-hand-drive example (which may find favour with track day enthusiasts due to the clockwise nature of most circuits), while the all-important factory label under the front boot lid reveals a unique original country code of C31, for Saudi Arabia.

Paul Stephens believe there’s no sign of previous track use on the car, which may explain the exuberance of those pristine painted wheel centres, while the decadence continues inside with a white painted centre console, and leather Sports seats with contrasting yellow stitching to match the yellow PCCB calipers sitting under each wheel arch.

The 3.6-litre, 386hp GT3 is in as-new condition, complemented by a full main dealer history with clear engine data, which should suitably appease fears of over-revs by any zealous former owners. In a Porsche market where individualism and originality from the factory is so revered, we can’t think of a better GT3 example to add to a collection or unleash on a track day right now.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I think it was around £65k. I remember he had a Mk2 CS around the same time and that was a touch over £60k and I wondered why this car was £5k more than that.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PindiXpress wrote:
Yeah I think it was around £65k. I remember he had a Mk2 CS around the same time and that was a touch over £60k and I wondered why this car was £5k more than that.


Well it is "the" colour, and has got "the" brakes and the mileage was nicely collectable. Shame about the seats (and we all know what a 'mare they are to find, don't we ??? ....)
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies, correct link now added (rather than just the image link) Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

let me check my database....












it was initially £69,995 in the summer of 2016 then dropped to £64,995 by the start of this year
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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let me check my database....







it was initially £69,995 in the summer of 2016 then dropped to £64,995 by the start of this year


Fantastic info, many thanks Thumb
Makes the two LHD cars at Octane look distinctly overpriced...
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the impact of Euro pricing, since there are about 40 cars all for sale at the Octane level and not selling
Dont know
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDC is putting people off i think. Cool
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


Very interestingly revealed though:

"while the all-important factory label under the front boot lid reveals a unique original country code of C31, for Saudi Arabia."

A very detailed inspection would be required, especially rotating part for wear. Detailed check for dust/sand build up in all the nooks and crannies...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jotaking wrote:
Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??


It's the country code i.e C16 for the UK or C00 for Germany...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ELA wrote:
jotaking wrote:
Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??


It's the country code i.e C16 for the UK or C00 for Germany...


And there was me thinking it stood for Parking Distance Control Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slippydiff wrote:
ELA wrote:
jotaking wrote:
Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??


It's the country code i.e C16 for the UK or C00 for Germany...


And there was me thinking it stood for Parking Distance Control Question


Me too!

Bloody useful when clipping the apex barriers at T13 on the nordschliefe!
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slippydiff wrote:
ELA wrote:
jotaking wrote:
Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??


It's the country code i.e C16 for the UK or C00 for Germany...


And there was me thinking it stood for Parking Distance Control Question


Slippydiff is correct, PDC is as above; PCC is the Porsche Country Code, which is what I thought Senoj was eluding to from the original link from the OP. i.e what might put someone off, a seemingly very competitively priced example.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ELA wrote:
Slippydiff wrote:
ELA wrote:
jotaking wrote:
Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??


It's the country code i.e C16 for the UK or C00 for Germany...


And there was me thinking it stood for Parking Distance Control Question


Slippydiff is correct, PDC is as above; PCC is the Porsche Country Code, which is what I thought Senoj was eluding to from the original link from the OP. i.e what might put someone off, a seemingly very competitively priced example.


Evening Richard. I don't mind where they come from, as long as they're built in the Porsche factory !! My 996 RS came from Cyprus (actually, now I come to mention it, it was an evil handling POS) so maybe the country it's supplied to originally does make a difference .... Question
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slippydiff wrote:
ELA wrote:
Slippydiff wrote:
ELA wrote:
jotaking wrote:
Senoj wrote:
PDC is putting people off i think. Cool


what is PDC??


It's the country code i.e C16 for the UK or C00 for Germany...


And there was me thinking it stood for Parking Distance Control Question


Slippydiff is correct, PDC is as above; PCC is the Porsche Country Code, which is what I thought Senoj was eluding to from the original link from the OP. i.e what might put someone off, a seemingly very competitively priced example.


Evening Richard. I don't mind where they come from, as long as they're built in the Porsche factory !! My 996 RS came from Cyprus (actually, now I come to mention it, it was an evil handling POS) so maybe the country it's supplied to originally does make a difference .... Question


Agreed in general Henry, but there are a few countries I'd be wary of as a general rule of thumb:

Saudi - When the military gear returned from exploits in the gulf war it went through a massive strip down clean. Still though, years later, you could still see traces of the sand/dust. You just can't clean it all out. For this reason any car that has spent any time in a dessert environment wouldn't be for me.

Cyprus - I do a few audits of airports in Cyprus/Greece and one thing that struck me was how quickly some of the relatively new ground handling equipment rusts.

Japan - Many Japanese cars come with zero service history.

Italy - Not very well maintained.

USA - quirky differences that make importing to say the EU very expensive as you have to change out all lights etc as they don't have 'E' numbers on them.

Generally though, most other countries I wouldn't be too concerned about (Norway, Sweden, Germany, NL...)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Rich.

I wouldn't buy a used car from Italy. Period. Let's just say their reputation proceeds them....

Yank stuff, on the whole anything old and aircooled that's lived in the sunshine state is going to be in far better condition (from the perspective of corrosion) than something that's been exposed to 40 years of English rain and road salt ! ! sure the dash 'll be cracked and the interior waaaay past its best, but I'd rather replace the interior than just about every panel in and around the floor pan !!

But you're right about the US lights and stuff, the few CGT owners that imported cars from the States when the exchange rate was in our favour and the cars were cheap anyhow, had to pay some big chunks of cash to get the correct Euro lights.

So true about Japanese cars, their calendar is different to ours (it starts when The Emperor died as I understand it) so ROW dates mean nothing, but worse still, apparently they don't actually like having their service books stamped, preferring to keep them unsullied and virginal rather than rammed full of service stamps. What a difference in culture !! Over here a service book with 10,20,30 stamps in it is something to be cherished, over there it's ruined !!

Good point about sand /dust ingress in Saudi etc, I'm sure it must wreak havoc on moving parts.

Cyprus is an interesting one, it's very hot in the summer, is it high humidity too ? Or do temperatures plummet during the night and thus produce a cycle that leads to heavy condensation ?
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite true about Japanese cars. Depends on the car and where you are buying from. I've bought Skylines in the past with stacks of bills, service records etc. True that the service books are sometimes not stamped but they normally have documented service papers. In this day and age not difficult to translate via google. I've also bought cars with zero history but these tended to be cheaper cars. They also tend to stick service stickers on their cars - my old GT3 had loads of these but also had service paperwork to back it up albeit some of the early history was missing. On the flip side, my 964 has fully stamped up service book from Japan with the wallet and stacks of bills.

Personally if I was after a LHD German car (especially something old) I'd always prefer a Jap import. Buy right and you're pretty much guaranteed a rust free shell and for me that is key. I once bought (at the time) a 20 year old AE86 for not much money and it was absolutely spotless - wish I never sold it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who bought a RUF CTR 'Yellowbird' from Japan recently and it had zero history. These are £0.5Mil+ cars today. I find it crazy that over in Japan they often don't keep any verifiable records for cars such as this Surprised
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