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A993LAD
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: 993 prices falling off a cliff ( in East Anglia at least ) Reply with quote

What's the story on this one then ?

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auctions/results/results-from-saturday-17th-june-2017/1995-porsche-911-993-carrera/

It looks like the car sold for £26,250 including buyers premium .

I appreciate it's tip Tronic and reasonably high mileage but it's a nice colour and it has sports seats so why is it so cheap ?

Or has the bubble finally burst and prices are dropping fast to the legendary 25 bags Zingari level.

For only 3 bags more than the 993 somebody acquired this beauty of a Chevette....

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auctions/results/results-from-saturday-17th-june-2017/1978-vauxhall-chevette-2300-hs/

Should have put my money into 1970's Vauxhalls

Who'd have thought it.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks an absolute shed tbh. At auction that looks a fair price, given you might need to chuck 10-20k at it quite soon. It's not representative of the breed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardbacks as well, so there's £5k under your arse to start with Grin

Recent big bill suggesting quite some work done to it.

Without premium/VAT under 25 bags Thumb

They're out there Floor
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel free to dive on in there Floor
Looks mint! Bandit
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hardbacks as well, so there's £5k under your arse to start with Grin


Heated as well Thumb

Not sure the backs are painted or wrapped but the factory finish would have looked a lot better.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure the backs are painted or wrapped but the factory finish would have looked a lot better.

Looks like it's got extended leather - maybe they're covered in hide Dont know
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with Chris, looks rough.

Boring Silver with Blue/Classic Grey was never going to help it either. Tiptronic, dirty engine bay, mismatched indicators, tired exterior lighting and the wrong side of 150k miles, i'm surprised it did as well as it did.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 993 prices falling off a cliff ( in East Anglia at least Reply with quote

A993LAD wrote:
What's the story on this one then ?

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auctions/results/results-from-saturday-17th-june-2017/1995-porsche-911-993-carrera/

It looks like the car sold for £26,250 including buyers premium .

I appreciate it's tip Tronic and reasonably high mileage but it's a nice colour and it has sports seats so why is it so cheap ?

Or has the bubble finally burst and prices are dropping fast to the legendary 25 bags Zingari level.

For only 3 bags more than the 993 somebody acquired this beauty of a Chevette....

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auctions/results/results-from-saturday-17th-june-2017/1978-vauxhall-chevette-2300-hs/

Should have put my money into 1970's Vauxhalls

Who'd have thought it.


Ahh yes, but have you ever driven an HS Shovit ? I had the dubious "pleasure" of owning one. A bigger heap of sh*te you'd be hard pushed to find. Mine was factory fresh, completely unmolested and had less than 10k miles on it. Only Vauxhall could have so comprehensively messed up what could (and should) have been a great car. Opel on the other hand (zose chermans again) made the Ascona into an absolute peach of car when they built the Ascona 400.

My Ascona 400 memories can be found here :

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=140&t=1651493&i=40
 
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cableguy wrote:
Have to agree with Chris, looks rough.

Boring Silver with Blue/Classic Grey was never going to help it either. Tiptronic, dirty engine bay, mismatched indicators, tired exterior lighting and the wrong side of 150k miles, i'm surprised it did as well as it did.

C.


Illuminati member exposed what Only an inner sanctum 'brother' would note the 'tired exterior lighting'.

I'm amazed that's a walk away issue. Elbow grease would sort most of that and that comes free Floor
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
cableguy wrote:
Have to agree with Chris, looks rough.

Boring Silver with Blue/Classic Grey was never going to help it either. Tiptronic, dirty engine bay, mismatched indicators, tired exterior lighting and the wrong side of 150k miles, i'm surprised it did as well as it did.

C.


Illuminati member exposed what Only an inner sanctum 'brother' would note the 'tired exterior lighting'.

I'm amazed that's a walk away issue. Elbow grease would sort most of that and that comes free Floor


realistically tho, its the closest you'll get to 25 bags, so why arent you buying it?
mileage/condition/risk?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, i'm inner sanctum outed... Surprised

Elbow grease won't sort a less driver focussed gearbox, colour boredom and mileage. The fact that it's looking tired shows the previous owner wasn't an enthusiast IMO.
Still, it's a lot of car for the selling price but I imagine that there's a fair few £££'s to be spent to get it tip top.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
Hardbacks as well, so there's £5k under your arse to start with Grin

Recent big bill suggesting quite some work done to it.

Without premium/VAT under 25 bags Thumb

They're out there Floor


They are here's another! And it has the fabled 'wing backs' plus are those holospikes? Could be had for 25 bags and it's a manual thumbsup probably old and tired however in today's market well priced

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201706156466069?postcode=sk71pj&make=PORSCHE&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=993%20Targa&price-from=500&sort=price-asc&page=1
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are here's another! And it has the fabled 'wing backs' plus are those holospikes? Could be had for 25 bags and it's a manual thumbsup probably old and tired however in today's market well priced

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201706156466069?postcode=sk71pj&make=PORSCHE&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=993%20Targa&price-from=500&sort=price-asc&page=1


Hand It'll get dismissed as its boring silver and blue.

It's a 25 bagger. Roll up, roll up Thumb
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
spongebob squarepants wrote:


They are here's another! And it has the fabled 'wing backs' plus are those holospikes? Could be had for 25 bags and it's a manual thumbsup probably old and tired however in today's market well priced

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201706156466069?postcode=sk71pj&make=PORSCHE&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=993%20Targa&price-from=500&sort=price-asc&page=1


Hand It'll get dismissed as its boring silver and blue.

It's a 25 bagger. Roll up, roll up Thumb


True but I bet someone hits the reserve online button on their website very soon, my finger was hovering at one point thumbsup
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zingari wrote:
spongebob squarepants wrote:


They are here's another! And it has the fabled 'wing backs' plus are those holospikes? Could be had for 25 bags and it's a manual thumbsup probably old and tired however in today's market well priced

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201706156466069?postcode=sk71pj&make=PORSCHE&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=911&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=993%20Targa&price-from=500&sort=price-asc&page=1


Hand It'll get dismissed as its boring silver and blue.

It's a 25 bagger. Roll up, roll up Thumb


3 yrs in waiting, will you be parting with cash? What will it take I'm intrigued now lol. It's only 179,000 miles everyone says 300k is achievable it's only just run in!
Or are you hedging bets on a crash and picking up a 2 or 4S with 80k for 25 bags anytime soon? I'm retiring in a few years would be cool to see this saga end lol
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So after all this time nobody actually wants the fabled "25 bagger " ? Everyone is chicken lol
Christ what does this mean for all the 50k and up 993s? I blame 911uk... Floor
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand It'll sell no problem.

I'm done with air cooled as the next one needs to be a kettle for greater usability. what I do think there is a wedge in the targa though as I could see it at mid 3s.

I was going to offer the Jubi up for 70 bags but it looks like the arse has fallen out of the air cooled market so I'm buying some rose tinted specs instead Bandit
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So after all this time nobody actually wants the fabled "25 bagger " ? Everyone is chicken lol
Christ what does this mean for all the 50k and up 993s? I blame 911uk... Floor


It's gone vanished completely off the website and auto trader, why do i get the feeling it will reappear soon for 10k more 👍
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And maybe lower mileage lol
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

157,000 miles on the clock and unpopular tiptronic-
26 grand is certainly not indicative of prices falling off a cliff.
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