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MJA911
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Tyre advice on soon be acquired GT3 Reply with quote

I put a deposit on a 997.1 GT3 yesterday, so if all goes to plan I will be the proud owner in 2 weeks time Smile

Whilst I'm busy making plans for initial goodies it will need to have (front intake grills, a GT03 number plate, GT3 wheel caps rather than colour crested spring to mind) my mind has turned to its tyres in that it has just had a new set of Pilot Sport Cup 2 (N0) fitted. They look great and from reading up I see that they're C rated for wet and seem to be positioned as Ok for road and rain.

Question I have is that whilst I will track the car maybe couple of times a year, it's going to be a road car so would I be better off selling these Cup 2 tyres whilst they're in as new condition and use the funds on a set of PS4S or leave well alone, save the hassle as they are the "right" tyres for the car and no issue if used sensibly on the road in wet conditions?

Thanks for any pointers, as a new member of the GT3 fold, they will be welcome!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd definitely go with the PS4s. Cups will wear very quickly on the road and are not as effective in the wet. I have the older super sports and they're fantastic and hold up well enough for the occasional track session.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it depends on how and when you're going to use it.

Only sparing use and only in the dry then I'd keep the Cups. I would imagine most GT3s fall into this category to a) reduce unnecessary mileage/value, and b) reduce the chance of unnecessarily binning it on wet roads.

If you plan on using it in all weathers at all times of the year then I would change the tyres to your preferred choice.

PS- I'm very envious, the '7 GT3 really is a special car.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that. I should have said it will be a couple of times a week/weekend/road trip/5k miles a year type car, should be able to avoid using it in crap weather most of the time. I did read that the cup tyres have harder sidewalls/harder ride, not a huge concern if it isn't like riding on wheels of stone, didn't seem to be on the test drive, euphoria might of been masking it of course Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the new car Thumb

My Turbo S was on Cup 2 tyres when I bought them, and TBH the only time I noted anything of concern with them was that the car was slightly twitchy when it was cold and very wet in early January.

Otherwise the car rides fine on them, in comparison to the PS2's that had been on my previous Turbo, and the grip in dry conditions is phenomenal. I would stick with them if you intend to avoid crap weather, and reconsider when it comes time to change.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graemep wrote:
Congrats on the new car Thumb

My Turbo S was on Cup 2 tyres when I bought them, and TBH the only time I noted anything of concern with them was that the car was slightly twitchy when it was cold and very wet in early January.

Otherwise the car rides fine on them, in comparison to the PS2's that had been on my previous Turbo, and the grip in dry conditions is phenomenal. I would stick with them if you intend to avoid crap weather, and reconsider when it comes time to change.
Agree

I run the cup 2 on my turbo with identical use to what you are planning and love them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that graemep, my current tyres are PS2 so that's my comparison too. Heard you were at the Beaconsfield meet last week from our blond haired friend Wink

Thanks RJW, good to know. They look the business, leaning towards keeping them, but as per itsdashy, I think the PS4S's would be more suitable. Suppose I could have a punt of asking if anybody wants a set of Cup 2s for the price of a set of PS4S's, i.e. they buy those and we swap over all in one go, keep the hassle factor down.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graemep wrote:
Congrats on the new car Thumb

My Turbo S was on Cup 2 tyres when I bought them, and TBH the only time I noted anything of concern with them was that the car was slightly twitchy when it was cold and very wet in early January.

Otherwise the car rides fine on them, in comparison to the PS2's that had been on my previous Turbo, and the grip in dry conditions is phenomenal. I would stick with them if you intend to avoid crap weather, and reconsider when it comes time to change.


This ^

CUp2 are very hard wearing. If its road miles makes sure geo is close to factory else you will just wear them out on the inside edges. Which is a waste of money/tyre
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that you mention GEO senoj, at some stage I'm sure I'll be up to CG, but in the meantime is there anything that means the excellent indie who's doing the pre-sale prep couldn't set the car to factory GEO? I'm just thinking about how adjustable they are, ride height for example. I'm assuming ride height has a factory setting which is road/tyre friendly?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJA911 wrote:
Interesting that you mention GEO senoj, at some stage I'm sure I'll be up to CG, but in the meantime is there anything that means the excellent indie who's doing the pre-sale prep couldn't set the car to factory GEO? I'm just thinking about how adjustable they are, ride height for example. I'm assuming ride height has a factory setting which is road/tyre friendly?


Maybe its already set there? You can probably tell by looking to be honest, stick you iphone on the front wheel with an angle measuring app, if ts set for track it will be around 3 ish of camber if road then 1.5 ish. That should give you a hint of where it is now. CG are great but anyone with some experience can set a geo on a Porsche.
 
  
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senoj wrote:
MJA911 wrote:
Interesting that you mention GEO senoj, at some stage I'm sure I'll be up to CG, but in the meantime is there anything that means the excellent indie who's doing the pre-sale prep couldn't set the car to factory GEO? I'm just thinking about how adjustable they are, ride height for example. I'm assuming ride height has a factory setting which is road/tyre friendly?


Maybe its already set there? You can probably tell by looking to be honest, stick you iphone on the front wheel with an angle measuring app, if ts set for track it will be around 3 ish of camber if road then 1.5 ish. That should give you a hint of where it is now. CG are great but anyone with some experience can set a geo on a Porsche.


+1... the indie should be able to check this for you. Before you collect it get
him to put everything back to standard (geo and anti roll bar settings).. then
when you start playing with it, you'll know how the car feels and drives when
it's set up from the factory, and you can start having fun with the cars set up.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cup 2 is the tyre that you want. They do not have the standing water and wear issues of the earlier Cup+ so they only warrant pause for thought if you are going to drive it in single figure or subzero temperatures (in which case you will certainly also need a set of winters).

[I have over 3 degrees of camber on mine and the multi-compound construction lasts many times better than the old Cup+ too (those have the inner shoulder evaporate in a few thousand road miles. That does not happen with the Cup 2).]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd listen to people who run them. You're buying a GT3 and they go hand in hand with Cup 2 tyres.

I have them on my 911 but I've not really run it much with them so can't give feedback but there's people on here who have given good feedback.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate the advise, I'll take it and keep the Cup 2s on the car Thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on the new purchase thumbsup Is it that lovely black one at 911V? Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the best with the new P&J Thumb

As for tyre choice I can't give factual advice. However a quick email to HI in Reading will point you right direction.

I would say you are ok on the standard set up. I assume you won't be going over confident on the roads to test the heart rates of your insurance company.

The main option you do have is to have another set of Original Equipment wheels (Porsche Approved) with different N compound tyres. Possibly run on the track using the second set of wheels and put the track focused tyres on them.

Are you going to be putting the vehicle back under Porsche Warranty in your ownership or is the new car modified?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could well be the black 911V car NottsRS Grin
I remember very well the white one you bought from them kas750 Thumb
Its bog standard MNC911, so future warranty options are still all there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suspected it may well have been the black one at 911V - looks a great car Thumb
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