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stefant
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:41 am    Post subject: My Targa Reply with quote

I bout a 2004 996 Targa for £12.2k in Feb this year. it has done 150k but had a full main dealer service history. It was mechanically sound but looked a bit sad and needed some mechanical and other bits fixing together with cosmetic bits fixing internally and eternally.

I spend £5k on a full major service, IMS, clutch, brakes, belts, and other stuff. Then have spent another £x on tyres and a bit of smart paint repair. I also installed a new head unit.

So you can buy a good targa for £12k but be prepared to spend cash and time getting it up to a suitable standard.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe prices are up as 911 are usually second cars and there is not much else to buy now that ticks any boxes now that modern cars do everything for you.

Sports car...... tick
Driver involvement..... tick (Tiptronic not included Very Happy Very Happy )
Value for money.... tick

Good luck with your search.

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Jackzi
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Phil. If you could message me with your guy's details, that would be great.

The tiptronic thread is interesting. From a rational point of view it makes perfect sense. However there's an emotional element to it as well. And for me at least that involves shifting myself (even if I know for fact I'll be slower in doing it). I remain open to persuasion though, but I'd just need to drive a car for more than 10 minutes.

Interestingly, there's a targa for sale locally with 126k miles that's had a full Hartech rebuild. It's up for 15.9k however.

When it comes to putting up a 'car wanted' ad, should I just post in the 996 section, or is there a special section for that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take one for the team and try to find out about the cheap one. But 20 quid says it's scam Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish you the best of luck with your search.....please keep us informed. Hopefully the local Targa will tick all the boxes.
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to look at a 996.2 Targa a few weekends ago at a Dealers in Peterborough. It was a manual with 79k and the dealer was asking just shy of £18k. Despite the relatively low miles it looked pretty tired and I'm not surprised its been kicking about for several weeks now. Corroded alloys, Front wheel arches where they meet the sills back to rusty bare metal on both sides and a wonky glass roof panel, amongst other things.

If like me you're on a tight-ish budget I would say look at private sales as I'm not convinced the margins are in it for dealers at sub £15k. Also be prepared to travel but try and find out as much as you can first to save a wasted trip. Hopefully my trip to Scotland will come out good tomorrow...
 
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jackzi wrote:
Thanks Phil. If you could message me with your guy's details, that would be great.

The tiptronic thread is interesting. From a rational point of view it makes perfect sense. However there's an emotional element to it as well. And for me at least that involves shifting myself (even if I know for fact I'll be slower in doing it). I remain open to persuasion though, but I'd just need to drive a car for more than 10 minutes.

Interestingly, there's a targa for sale locally with 126k miles that's had a full Hartech rebuild. It's up for 15.9k however.

When it comes to putting up a 'car wanted' ad, should I just post in the 996 section, or is there a special section for that?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greggy wrote:
I went to look at a 996.2 Targa a few weekends ago at a Dealers in Peterborough. It was a manual with 79k and the dealer was asking just shy of £18k. Despite the relatively low miles it looked pretty tired and I'm not surprised its been kicking about for several weeks now. Corroded alloys, Front wheel arches where they meet the sills back to rusty bare metal on both sides and a wonky glass roof panel, amongst other things.

If like me you're on a tight-ish budget I would say look at private sales as I'm not convinced the margins are in it for dealers at sub £15k. Also be prepared to travel but try and find out as much as you can first to save a wasted trip. Hopefully my trip to Scotland will come out good tomorrow...


I looked at that one as well (from a computer window, mind you). Even gave them a call and they told me the car is now in the workshop to address the roof.

It even looks a bit tired in the pics with the substantial yellowing of the interior, which is not an encouraging sign. I've seen graphite grey go yellow before (especially the steering wheel), but not that bad I guess.

I agree that private's probably a better bet in that case. But there aren't many around.

Good luck with the trip up north. Keep us posted with details (although I think you've started another thread about that, haven't you?)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 0 to 10 posts in 2 days .. bit different from the last few years !

Welcome to the forums young man Very Happy i did say they dont bite Floor
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From 0 to 10 posts in 2 days .. bit different from the last few years !

Welcome to the forums young man Very Happy i did say they dont bite Floor


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with your search it is worth being patient. There are some cracking cars out there on the private market and with a good PPI you can buy with a degree of confidence. Some of the indie/dealer warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on anyway. Be bold with your offers you have nothing to lose Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Iain. You were certainly right. And thanks to everyone for the help and advice.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jackzi,

I'll be advertising my 2002 (51) 996.2 C2 manual in the next couple of weeks. It's standard aside from Dansk Sport exhausts (barely any different to standard to be fair). Pretty good spec, no nav but it does have cruise and sport seats.

It's on 96k miles, full and very thorough service history with new brakes and tyres (N rated) all round this year. New clutch with RMS and uprated IMS bearing last year. It's Midnight Blue with grey leather interior. Very good condition.

Let me know if you'd be interested, it'll be going up for £15,500ono. I'm in Derby

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saint Matt wrote:
Hi Jackzi,

I'll be advertising my 2002 (51) 996.2 C2 manual in the next couple of weeks. It's standard aside from Dansk Sport exhausts (barely any different to standard to be fair). Pretty good spec, no nav but it does have cruise and sport seats.

It's on 96k miles, full and very thorough service history with new brakes and tyres (N rated) all round this year. New clutch with RMS and uprated IMS bearing last year. It's Midnight Blue with grey leather interior. Very good condition.

Let me know if you'd be interested, it'll be going up for £15,500ono. I'm in Derby

Thanks, Matt


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was buying again I'd be paying £20k at a good dealer for a sub 80k mile 3.4. With the present uptick in values, in 5 years time you should be able to flog it on without a loss. And you can enjoy it without crawling under it.

What I did 4 years ago was pay bottom dollar for a car with good history that needed a few big jobs, and do them myself - but that was to minimise my own risk as values were still on the way down. If I was to sell right now my car has been free motoring.....

Personally I'd not be going near a 996.2 without hartech liners, unless it was a really low miler - bore wear will wipe out any value uptick unless you keep it a long long time afterwards. It will happen unless the car is a garage queen. 3.4 all the way!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the last post really interesting , are you saying that a 3.6 that hasn't been rebuilt will inevitably fail ? I'm still looking for a car too and I would prefer a 3.6 but I've heard a couple of people saying this now about the 3.6 don't buy one unless it's been rebuilt by Hartech. It's playing on my mind a bit so much so that I've started looking at other makes now too .
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant beat at bit more scaremongering about the 3.6 Hand

Every car will require engine work at sometime , but you don't recommend they rebuild every car engine because at sometime it will need doing .

Most 3.6 are fine , very few have issues
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy I know if you believed everything you read on the internet you wouldn't buy anything !!
 
  
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats interesting, I am currently trying to sell my 996 c4 it is on Autotrader for £15995 and not even a sniff of a call. Now, either the car is overpriced or its a bad advert I haven't the foggiest. All I know is I'm gutted to have to sell it having got it to how I want it,
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To give you some idea of running costs I bought my 996.1 C2 2.5 years ago with 80,000m on the clock after a £250 PPI, the dealer completed a full service and addressed the main PPI issues - cost £11k.

I've spent £4.7k on parts/upgrades etc during my 20,000m ownership of which only £2k was really needed inc minor service at a Porsche indy, the rest has gone on suspension upgrades, performance, Hifi etc with me doing most of the work (easy to work on and non genuine parts are cheap). The aircon needs a leak sorting but apart from that nothing else really needs doing (I'm going to continue to improve it though), I don't care about stone chipped PU's.

A quality PPI is the key otherwise you could find yourself with some very big bills even if you can wield the spanners yourself. At this age there are several areas that will start to wear out so I wouldn't be afraid of a high mileage car that has been used regularly over the past few years to give it a good shake down (let someone else replace all the consumables!). Regular maintenance and use makes them live long and healthy lives. It's a great daily driver if you take it on decent runs out. Tax & insurance are cheap and it returns a 26mpg average despite some good blats.
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